1969 - The Man and the Journey

J Ed · Post by **J Ed** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:13 pm

the great unrecorded concept album
and basis for a two act live show of (mostly) all new music
a decade later it was considered a radical move to do those Wall shows, where they didnt play a single one of their old songs
yet theyd done exactly the same thing back in 1969

and thats not the only thing this songsuite has in common with The Wall!

why did it not become their new album?
most sources say theyd already released most of the songs, but Im not so sure
Cymbaline was not part of the 1st show, so presumably they started performing tM&tJ before working on the More soundtrack
Eugene was only a bside
and the versions of Pow R Toc H and Celestial Voices were quite different than the earlier versions
(esp the one time they added brass and choir to Celestial Voices)

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EDIT: edited to include year in title

Post by **mosespa** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:14 am

According to Wikipedia:

"Plans for an official live album release of The Man and the Journey were considered, but abandoned due to overlap of material with Ummagumma."

So...the reason that it was never recorded and officially released is because, apparently, the band decided to do Ummagumma (and thus, use the material that appears in both places there,) instead.

DBlaze · Post by **DBlaze** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:01 am

The Man and The Journey would have made a great album...I prefer it over Ummagumma.

Harpo · Post by **Harpo** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:51 am

If it had been an official album, The Man & The Journey would be my favourite Pink Floyd album.

A great shame that it wasn't filmed, those rehearsal clips are awesome

mhspiper · Post by **mhspiper** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:54 pm

"The Man and the Journey" is one of my favourite musical suites of all time. It's fun to lean back and listen to it (especially "The Journey" half). Since it's mostly instrumental, it can mean whatever you want. I like to read with it on.

Post by **snifferdog** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:40 pm

What's the best ROIO of this to get?

I made my own as per the instructions on this site

Harpo · Post by **Harpo** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:30 pm

I'd say the best is "Complete Concertgebouw" (17-9-69)

But for an excellent early version try "The Massed Gadgets Of Auximines" (14-4-69)

Cowards · Post by **Cowards** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:50 pm

snifferdog wrote:What's the best ROIO of this to get?

I made my own as per the instructions on this site

Meh... I read that a while ago and it's more of a Hear It Proper type thing. It just wouldn't work, at least for me, to use the album tracks in place of the live, and often superior (The End of the Beginning being a lot better than the album version of Celestial Voices in my opinion).

But, each to their own, I guess

DBlaze · Post by **DBlaze** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:00 pm

Complete Concertgebouw is the only version I have. I recommend it for those who haven't gotten it yet.

http://thinkfloyd.free.fr/roio/roio.htm

That would be the site to get it on

Steelbreeze1971 · Post by **Steelbreeze1971** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:01 pm

Harpo wrote:I'd say the best is "Complete Concertgebouw" (17-9-69)

I agree.
http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=KGWGBQ8Z
This is in lossless btw.

Post by **snifferdog** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:38 pm

Thanks for the links

Steelbreeze1971 · Post by **Steelbreeze1971** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:28 pm

snifferdog wrote:Thanks for the links

You're welcome. Prepare to be blown away, I kid you not. First time I heard this I was like

for 2 days.

DBlaze · Post by **DBlaze** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:54 am

i think steel breeze and I linked to the same thing, but yeah prepare to be blown away...

Harpo · Post by **Harpo** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:52 am

Apart from anything else, I think Complete Concertgebouw is the only ROIO which includes the famous Teatime section.

The Massed Gadgets Of Auximines is better is a few ways, some pieces (such as Beset By Creatures Of The Deep, and Labyrinths Of Auximines, and especially Work) are longer than on the later Concertgebouw recording. Also some of the songs were not included at that early stage, which gives the whole thing a more experimental feel, less similar to the "standard" setlist

Steelbreeze1971 · Post by **Steelbreeze1971** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:56 pm

DBlaze wrote:i think steel breeze and I linked to the same thing, but yeah prepare to be blown away...

Not quite the same, the french site is mp3 if I'm not mistaken (yuck) and mine is lossless.