Influences on Pink Floyd

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The Show Must Go On seems to reference the main melody and harmony arrangement of Simon and Garfunkel's 'Only Living Boy in New York', right?

I don't know whether Simon and Garfunkel were necessarily a significant influence, but I think Simon's writing precedes Waters' conceptualising around themes of alienation, commentary on psycho-societal strains, existential angst, disintegrating interpersonal relations etc

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I'm mildly curious whether the title Let There Be More Light references this film about soldiers' experiences of PTSD:



That would fit with Waters' interests, but maybe not and although the film was made in 1946 it was apparently unavailable for thirty years?

Some good lyrical analysis here https://genius.com/Pink-floyd-let-there ... ght-lyrics

And here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_There_Be_More_Light
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These two guys? Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. Barrett was a fan of blues artists. They maybe influenced Syd more than with their names?

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This is just speculation, since it includes the line Rabbit run, run rabbit, rabbit run by. It was recorded at Abbey Road at the same time as Piper, and was the last Hollies album to feature Graham Nash (for 15 years or so). He quit the band after a big argument in the studio, while none other than David Gilmour was sitting around playing backgammon. The rest of the band didn't like "Marrakesh Express", so he jumped ship and immediately formed Crosby, Stills, and Nash (and not as immediately, Young).

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An obvious influence on Pink Floyd's David Gilmour when he wrote 'Fat Old Sun' were Kinks, and their song 'Lazy Old Sun'.

David Gilmour: ''"Maybe I ripped it off subconsciously. Who knows. They never sued me."

David Gilmour: “I remember,”thinking at the time,‘What have I ripped this off? I’m sure it’s by the Kinks or someone’ But since whenever it was – 1968, ’69 – no one has ever yet said, ‘It’s exactly like this.’

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space triangle wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:59 pm An obvious influence on Pink Floyd's David Gilmour when he wrote 'Fat Old Sun' were Kinks, and their song 'Lazy Old Sun'.
Other than the title, are there any other similarities between the two songs?
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ZiggyZipgun wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:28 pmOther than the title, are there any other similarities between the two songs?
I'm wondering about it, as well. Is it just the song title, or...? I dunno, for sure. To me, the songs don't sound too much similar.
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I know Gilmour has mentioned that The Kinks had also used the sound of church bells on a track - and it's actually the same recording of church bells as "Fat Old Sun", since they were all using the same sound library. I believe it's also the same recording used on "High Hopes", but I'm sure that was intentional - just as Gilmour had used the same recording of his "seagull" sound effect (of his wah pedal plugged in backwards and self-oscillating) from "Echoes" on both "Is There Anybody Out There?" and "Marooned".
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Holy. Great thread. Some of them, especially at the beginning of the thread, are pretty clear influences to me.
Great find on the lost for words video; where does that come from? I didn’t think it was released or even existed. Didn’t Jon Carin even question the authenticity of the version included in the later years? Hard to believe there’s what looks like a pulse rehearsal, professionally shot video for it.