Ok, the valxwagon was made by nazi's as a reward for nazis. Now we all know how Roger felt about nazi's yeah? And war in general, a war which could have been avoided without nazis.
Yes we have gotten over the war but no i don't think it's apropreate for a band doing songs from the wall to be sponsered by a nazi made company. Volxwagon are scum and if the people have any consceience atall then they would stop the bloody company.
and i dunno how many times i have to say this, but:
I'M NOT BLOODY ENGLISH. I'M BLOODY SCOTISH!
oh and by the way, if it wasn't for the nazis there would be no way we could be speaking german. Punish the nazi car companies! The Hitler improved car, bloody hell.
And by the way, could someone tell me more about this Jeff Beck stuff?
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By '68, Jeff Beck was bloody famous because of his stint with the Yardbirds. Roger, Rick, and Nick considered him as a replacement for Syd, but they never did ask him if he wanted to join the group. That's all there is to it, really.David Smith wrote: And by the way, could someone tell me more about this Jeff Beck stuff?
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The VW was the best thing that Hitler ever had his hand in. To say that because we equate Hitler with evil, therefore the car (meant to be an affordable "people's car") company is also evil is black and white thinking. One can be a complete monster, but could have good ideas about certain things and can help implement beneficial things for humanity despite their other nefarious deeds. Those things the person helps develop shouldn't be discounted just because the originator was "bad." Margaret Sanger, who was instrumental in getting birth control legal and available for women, was considered to be into Eugenics, or race cleansing. That is bad, but birth control IMHO, for those who wish to use it, is a good thing. Many people who are completely against the concept of Eugenics take birth control pills. Many liberal people who are totally anti-nazi drive VWs.
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Im sorry for saying you are English David,i know that you scottish although you are more than happy to take money from westminister NEVER like to feel too much of a connection,you are British when it suits you and scottish when it suits you, You cannot have such a completely irrational and xenophobic attitude towards a company and its product just because it was established by an Evil regime,nobodys disputing Hitler was an evil bastard! I dont hate english products even though England occupied my country for 800 years give or take,and before you argue that the english were nowhere as bad as the Nazis I,ll say this: Yes they werent as bad as the Nazis but they occupied the land against the will of the people,dispossessed the people of their land,conscripted irish men into armies against their will,Ethnically cleansed whole areas and planted them with english settlers,they almost completely eradicated the irish language and persecuted people for speaking it, basically they fucked the country up!
So if the irish people can get over all of the above maybe you should get off your high horse about VOLKSWAGEN (thats how its spelt) sponsoring the Floyd,its not like the band killed anyone,youre only 16 David,lifes too short to hate,if you knew anything about history youd understand that your attitude towards volkswagen is exactly what leads to racism and genocide,chill out man.
Jeff beck would have been good
So if the irish people can get over all of the above maybe you should get off your high horse about VOLKSWAGEN (thats how its spelt) sponsoring the Floyd,its not like the band killed anyone,youre only 16 David,lifes too short to hate,if you knew anything about history youd understand that your attitude towards volkswagen is exactly what leads to racism and genocide,chill out man.
Jeff beck would have been good
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Ok, i don't know what sort of a point you're trying to prove here, but i have never claimed to be britsh, if someone asks me i'll say i'm scotish. Although if there's a scotland/ engalnd argument on i'll say "come on, we're all british." I personally would rather Scotland was independent, but not under socialist ruling like the SSP promote.
I am in no way racist, i just don't see why a nazi established car company that took advantage of slave labourers and helped screw the people of germany still make cars. That and i don't see why Pink Floyd would be sponsered by them after releasing the final cut. I have nothing against germans.
A company's past doesn't amtter to me, unless it's a large company built on blood like VOLKSWAGEN (god my spelling was bad )
I am in no way racist, i just don't see why a nazi established car company that took advantage of slave labourers and helped screw the people of germany still make cars. That and i don't see why Pink Floyd would be sponsered by them after releasing the final cut. I have nothing against germans.
A company's past doesn't amtter to me, unless it's a large company built on blood like VOLKSWAGEN (god my spelling was bad )
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I thought the original title for Echoes was "Looking through the Knot Whole in Granny's Wooden Let"?
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Im sorry for implying you were racist David,you just kinda came across that way a little bit,Its true what all those companies did during the war was absolutely disgusting(slave labour) and that shuld never be forgotten,But i dont hold it against the company now(although maybe they could have changed the name,but they would have had to change a lot ie Krupps, IBM etc),its time to move on and put it behind us .
Im glad you want to see scotland become indepedent,it would be nice for the Scots to have a real voice of their own
So....In the words of a very important and over dramatised figure from
Scottish history .....FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!
ps ive read that Dave really regretted allowing Volkswagen to sponsor them,i think it was a mistake personally,it made it a lot easier for people to accuse the floyd of making corporate rock!!
Im glad you want to see scotland become indepedent,it would be nice for the Scots to have a real voice of their own
So....In the words of a very important and over dramatised figure from
Scottish history .....FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!
ps ive read that Dave really regretted allowing Volkswagen to sponsor them,i think it was a mistake personally,it made it a lot easier for people to accuse the floyd of making corporate rock!!
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Ah good, my slate's wiped clean (i may apologise for the America comments later, hmm, maybe in a week after they've blown up Iraq and Sadam gets away.)
I have to say though, that film Bravheart was a total shamble and i have to say Scots desrve their own voice instead of living in the pocket of Tony Blair.
I have to say though, that film Bravheart was a total shamble and i have to say Scots desrve their own voice instead of living in the pocket of Tony Blair.
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If the truth be know, Scots do not live IN the pocket of Tony Blair but rather out of it in the sense that expenditure from tax revenue per capita is higher in Scotland than it is in England so there is a transfer of wealth from England to Scotland - so perhaps it would be wise to build a big wall between our countries, David?David Smith wrote:Ah good, my slate's wiped clean (i may apologise for the America comments later, hmm, maybe in a week after they've blown up Iraq and Sadam gets away.)
I have to say though, that film Bravheart was a total shamble and i have to say Scots desrve their own voice instead of living in the pocket of Tony Blair.
I am beginning to think you have a split personality, david. On one hand you are a hitler youth nationalist and, on the other, anti war. Perhaps you are just civilised? I would not know about that personaly!!! By the way, I am only joking with you.
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Nationalist? I assure you that was an example, i DO NOT support deathrow or apartheid f that's how it came out.
Oh i see what you mean. The reason i support scotland being it's own nation is because i feel scots are obviously a minority in Britain so we have little effect on the way it's run. Also the monarchy and primeinister live in England, we have different rules for so many things and ultimatly the scotish parliament is a great start (even if it's run by monkeys) to liberate scotland from being "a city in England" as Britney Spears so well put it.
We need no english money, the scots should have a country of our own like we thought for so long ago.
Oh i see what you mean. The reason i support scotland being it's own nation is because i feel scots are obviously a minority in Britain so we have little effect on the way it's run. Also the monarchy and primeinister live in England, we have different rules for so many things and ultimatly the scotish parliament is a great start (even if it's run by monkeys) to liberate scotland from being "a city in England" as Britney Spears so well put it.
We need no english money, the scots should have a country of our own like we thought for so long ago.