Musings on Is This The Life We Really Want?

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ZiggyZipgun wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:41 pm It's Nigel Godrich's production team - they took Roger's basic tracks and did whatever they wanted, including some stuff that Roger wasn't even keen on. Another person that Roger had never heard of (Gus Seyffert) plays bass on most of it. Interesting to note that Roger didn't play bass on any of the new tracks on his Us + Them tour, though he did play bass on "Dogs" and (for the first time ever) "Pigs"...but for some reason, so did Gus. I can understand why they both played bass on "One of These Days", since the original version was double-tracked with two distinctly different bass sounds, but the others are a mystery.
Can you show me where you learned that he didn't play on it?

I'd like to read this article.

Thank you.
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ZiggyZipgun wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:41 pm It's Nigel Godrich's production team - they took Roger's basic tracks and did whatever they wanted, including some stuff that Roger wasn't even keen on. Another person that Roger had never heard of (Gus Seyffert) plays bass on most of it. Interesting to note that Roger didn't play bass on any of the new tracks on his Us + Them tour, though he did play bass on "Dogs" and (for the first time ever) "Pigs"...but for some reason, so did Gus. I can understand why they both played bass on "One of These Days", since the original version was double-tracked with two distinctly different bass sounds, but the others are a mystery.
I don't think there's any particular problem here. Roger didn't call all the production shots. Why is that a problem?

The tour is an entirely different thing. I'm talking about the album.
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Annoying Twit wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:03 pm
ZiggyZipgun wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:41 pm It's Nigel Godrich's production team - they took Roger's basic tracks and did whatever they wanted, including some stuff that Roger wasn't even keen on. Another person that Roger had never heard of (Gus Seyffert) plays bass on most of it. Interesting to note that Roger didn't play bass on any of the new tracks on his Us + Them tour, though he did play bass on "Dogs" and (for the first time ever) "Pigs"...but for some reason, so did Gus. I can understand why they both played bass on "One of These Days", since the original version was double-tracked with two distinctly different bass sounds, but the others are a mystery.
I don't think there's any particular problem here. Roger didn't call all the production shots. Why is that a problem?

The tour is an entirely different thing. I'm talking about the album.
Someone told Roger that he could do the album better.

Roger hired him.

The man took Roger's songs and PRODUCED them into an album.

This is the system right?
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ZiggyZipgun wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:35 pm But again, each of his albums have come out immediately after a divorce (except Pros and Cons, which was written right after divorce #1, and KAOS, which caused divorce #2.
ZiggyZipgun wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:40 am It was very important that this album would sell well. (...) Roger's hypocrisy over the past thirty years is astounding. And again, In the Flesh was put out to pay for divorce #3, and ITTLWRW paid for divorce #4.

Excuse me but what a load of nonsense. Why would he need for his albums to pay for his divorces when he's already a millionaire ?? A divorce probably barely scratches the surface of his wealth, and even if it didn't, Roger knows only too well how unsuccesful his albums usually are, so it would be completely stupid of him to use that strategy, which, sorry, he isn't. Basically I think that's just gratuitous accusation.
ZiggyZipgun wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:35 pm Pros and Cons was written right after divorce #1
Roger and Judy divorced in 1975, and he started making plans for Pros & Cons at the same time as for The Wall (hence the musical & thematic connections between TW, P&C and TFC) and that was in 77-78, by which point he had already married & had children with Carolyne.
ZiggyZipgun wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:35 pm KAOS caused divorce #2.
May I know where on earth you found the evidence to back this up ?
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At the last count poor old socialist Rog was worth $310 million - who says capitalism is bad???
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drafsack wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:32 pm At the last count poor old socialist Rog was worth $310 million - who says capitalism is bad???
What Rog wants Rog gets.
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drafsack wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:32 pm At the last count poor old socialist Rog was worth $310 million - who says capitalism is bad???
Mostly the people living below the poverty line....