Pink Floyd - Ummagumma

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21%
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Total votes: 75

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Re: Pink Floyd - Ummagumma

Post by Jimi Dean Barrett » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:50 pm

It will always be one of the best live albums of Prog. It isn't a screaming stadium and it shows just how quiet Prog gigs were.
If you can make a decision between "commercial" and "Avant Garde" then you could have made three sides of this double album perfect and have Roger Waters songs on the same side as Dave Gilmour.
Rick's contribution keeps the quality, but I really wish Nick realised the band was more important and made way for live version of "Interstellar Overdrive", but that's Pink Floyd in the 60's then!
5 anyway.

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Re: Pink Floyd - Ummagumma

Post by Wolfpack » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:59 pm

According to Wikipedia, all instruments of 'The Narrow Way' were played by Gilmour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Narrow_Way

However, could the drums be played by Mason?
I think the drums sound like his style.

Wasn't the concept that each member just got leadership on one quarter of the studio album?
Not ruling out contributions by other members?

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Re: Pink Floyd - Ummagumma

Post by omeaeol » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:53 pm

Wolfpack wrote:According to Wikipedia, all instruments of 'The Narrow Way' were played by Gilmour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Narrow_Way

However, could the drums be played by Mason?
I think the drums sound like his style.

Wasn't the concept that each member just got leadership on one quarter of the studio album?
Not ruling out contributions by other members?
On Ummagumma, every instrument is played by the composer (hence the drums on The Narrow Way by Gilmour) but the flute on The Grand Viziers'... Pt. 1 & 3 (which is played by Mason's [then] wife).

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Re: Pink Floyd - Ummagumma

Post by mastaflatch » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:11 pm

omeaeol wrote:
Wolfpack wrote:According to Wikipedia, all instruments of 'The Narrow Way' were played by Gilmour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Narrow_Way

However, could the drums be played by Mason?
I think the drums sound like his style.

Wasn't the concept that each member just got leadership on one quarter of the studio album?
Not ruling out contributions by other members?
On Ummagumma, every instrument is played by the composer (hence the drums on The Narrow Way by Gilmour) but the flute on The Grand Viziers'... Pt. 1 & 3 (which is played by Mason's [then] wife).
The drums on The Narrow Way aren't as effortless as what Mason could do anyway but it's clearly trying to emulate his idiosyncrasies. See also Syd's Dominoes for further demonstration of Gilmour's attempts at drumming :)

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Re: Pink Floyd - Ummagumma

Post by MoreOrLess » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:31 pm

Jimi Dean Barrett wrote:It will always be one of the best live albums of Prog. It isn't a screaming stadium and it shows just how quiet Prog gigs were.
If you can make a decision between "commercial" and "Avant Garde" then you could have made three sides of this double album perfect and have Roger Waters songs on the same side as Dave Gilmour.
Rick's contribution keeps the quality, but I really wish Nick realised the band was more important and made way for live version of "Interstellar Overdrive", but that's Pink Floyd in the 60's then!
5 anyway.
The live album would not for me really fit into the more narrow version of "prog" that seems to have developed, its more proto krautrock than it is akin to Yes, Genesis, etc.

As far as the tracks involved go I personally don't think that Interstellar Overdrive was as effective as the rest with the bands more Wright dominated sound in that era. I know the potential version we have isn't as tweeked as the official ones but I think all of those tracks work wonderfully(albeit its hard to say whether Astronomy Domine is "better" than the studio, both offer something different) where as I think Interstellar Overdrive became a lot more effective again when the bands sound "toughened up" a bit by 1970.

I spose the big alternative would have been actually recording the Man/Journey either live or in the studio but honestly I do think that the individual tracks we have on the 1 disk likve album might be more effective, there is a great unity of sound there and they build on each other well. The other alternative would have been to have a more conventional studio album, maybe even not to release more and instead put the best of that on Ummagumma or to release it and not use the pre existing tracks. Its good to have everything we do but in terms of the best studio album that could have been released I think you could certainly come up with something of excellent quality...

Cirus Minor, Cymbeline, Green is the Colour, Main and Dynamic themes from More, The Embryo, Biding my Time, Granchester Meadows, the Narrow Way pt 1.

With all that and the live disk I woulod say Ummagumma would have a good case for being the bands best album.

Honestly I think the big positive of the studio Ummagumma disk is that it was largely a failure that the band learnt from quickly and stuck to working together for most of the 70's whilst many other progish bands were wasting there time on memebers solo pieces in the studio and live as well as avoiding any more overt classical pretensions.

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Re: Pink Floyd - Ummagumma

Post by Jimi Dean Barrett » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:33 pm

Happy Birthday! 47 years today!