Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

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Rate this album

5 - Best
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30%
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3
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25%
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9%
1 - Worst
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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by kitkat » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:40 pm

Yes I was.

But even a functioning clock is wrong twice a day. :-;

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by mosespa » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:38 pm

So...are you admitting you were wrong to criticize Roger...or that you were wrong to suggest that anyone who would do so deserves an ass kicking.

And please explain how a functioning clock is wrong twice a day? lol

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by floydfreak420 » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:57 pm

The Pros & Cons is one of my favorite RW solo albums. I was fortunate to see it performed live with Eric Clapton back in 84'.
The Pros & Cons came very close to being a Pink Floyd album. The way I understand it is that around 1978 when the Floyd members were discussing a new project Roger had 2 rough demos, the Wall and The Pros & Cons. The band chose "the Wall" and the rest is history. I heard that both demos sounded very similar. The Pros & Cons does sort of have that "In The Flesh" thing going on, you can hear it most on "Go Fishing". I just love what Clapton did for that record. I will never get tired of hearing it.

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by thehumanzoo » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:09 pm

I'm afraid I must disagree. I think that Clapton's work did not really do it for me on that record. To my ears, it sounds like one long continuous drone of twangy blues guitar - really not very much variety.

It would have been a great (although possibly failed) experiment if Roger had done something totally different such as recording it as an orchestral suite with Clapton guesting on a couple of tracks. However, the deluge of very similar guitar sounds and licks just leaves me cold and bored.

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by Hudini » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:18 pm

I honestly believe that "The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking" feature some of the poorest guitar work from Eric Clapton. I was just a kid to see the actual album tour, but his playing on the album is far below his average. Not technically though, but the lack of inspiration and idea in his never-ending (and mostly misplaced) licks is omnipresent.

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by Cowards » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:38 pm

kitkat wrote:But even a functioning clock is wrong twice a day. :-;
Guuh?

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by floydfreak420 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:33 pm

I do agree with some of the opinions about the album being too repetitive. Clapton has definitely done much more interesting guitar work over the years but personally I just like the whole dream concept of the album. I think Clapton's guitar work backs up the emotions of Rogers screaming vocals pretty well. I sort of consider that album one long song. I never really cared much for the title track but it has grown on me over the years...

I love the thought of it being done as an orchestral suite that someone mentioned above. I've always wished that Rog would make a modern "Atom Heart Mother" type of album. I think "The Pros & Cons" would have been great for something like that.

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by danielcaux » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:17 am

Hudini wrote:I honestly believe that "The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking" feature some of the poorest guitar work from Eric Clapton. I was just a kid to see the actual album tour, but his playing on the album is far below his average. Not technically though, but the lack of inspiration and idea in his never-ending (and mostly misplaced) licks is omnipresent.
+1

Jeff Beck did a much better job on ATD than Clapton on P&C. Too bad Waters never managed to do a real collaborative album with him, not just a solo record with Beck as guest. He is the one guitarist who could add the musical counterbalance that Waters have been missing so much since he quitted the Floyd.

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by floydfreak420 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:54 pm

Absolutely! Jeff Beck is amazing on all fronts...
There's a Jeff Beck concert video out there somewhere with Waters as a guest, Real good stuff. I believe it has the only live version of "What God Wants (part 3)".
I only saw it once but the entire show is great - of course...

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by jtull » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:10 pm

floydfreak420 wrote:Absolutely! Jeff Beck is amazing on all fronts...
There's a Jeff Beck concert video out there somewhere with Waters as a guest, Real good stuff. I believe it has the only live version of "What God Wants (part 3)".
I only saw it once but the entire show is great - of course...

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by 30yrsydfan » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:54 pm

I confess, I only went to see the pros and cons tour because I wanted to see Clapton.

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by Bumr50 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:18 pm

I love the concept and narrative. Eric Clapton was the wrong guitarist for the job. David had a way of accentuating Roger's lyrics that Clapton simply did not have the chemistry for.
Even without Dave, a more cohesive guitarist with a similar style would have made this album better, along with a few, er, suggestions that people more familiar with Roger's self indulgence would've proven a boon.

PS- I love Eric Clapton in almost all of his solo and band incarnations.

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by grelch » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:46 pm

I loved the album when it came out, but I'm not so sure that I was capable of being objective about anything Pink Floyd related back then. Rog could have blown his nose in a tissue and I would have declared the act genius. At any rate, I have a hard time listening to this album now. It drones, it drags, he moans, he whines. Musically, the entire album is based on a three note acoustic guitar progression (undoubtedly the wrong description) borrowed from Possible Pasts from The Final Cut. It's not hard to understand why the rest of the Floyds chose the Wall over Pros & Cons when offered a choice of which to record. I don't dislike the album now, I just don't find it to be up to his high standards.

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by princessDungan74D » Sun May 30, 2010 11:09 pm

I like the album for some odd reason. It is an intersting album that is good for a road trip.

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Re: Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking

Post by oz1701 » Mon May 31, 2010 1:59 am

Bumr50 wrote:I love the concept and narrative. Eric Clapton was the wrong guitarist for the job. David had a way of accentuating Roger's lyrics that Clapton simply did not have the chemistry for.
yes - that is something i have often thought - although i feel that Eric is trying to sound like David where if he had stuck to his own style it might have worked better .

i still prefer this to Roger's other officially solo works.