Bass on Pigs (Three Different Ones)?

vintagequeen · Post by **vintagequeen** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:26 pm

I've read in numerous places that the famous bass playing in Pigs (Three Different Ones) on Animals is actually David's as opposed to Roger's work.

Could anyone confirm the reality behind this please?

Massed Gadgets · Post by **Massed Gadgets** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:48 pm

Not in any of the credit lists I've read...they credit the bass on Pigs 3DO to Roger.

Gem · Post by **Gem** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:54 pm

I realise you're going to have two seemingly conflicting responses now, but it is true that David played the bass on P(3DO).

If it's melodic, it's David. Good rule of thumb.

sunny dunes · Post by **sunny dunes** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:04 pm

Just based on the sound and the notes, I believe it is David, but I have no clear proof.

It has been said that Gilmour played more bass than is usually realized -- Dave has said that Roger, upon winning yet another "best bassist" award, would say "Thanks for another one, buddy!" As far as I can remember, Dave is only widely known to have played bass on "Hey You" (fretless) and "One of These Days" (one of the two, Roger playing the other), so if what Dave says is true, then there much be a fair bit of Gilmour bass-playing going uncredited. You have hit on one that seems a pretty likely contender.

vintagequeen · Post by **vintagequeen** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:07 pm

That David quote is exactly what brought me to ask about "Pigs."

I'm slightly skeptical though, given that David and Roger were going through one of their public argument phases at the time this quote was printed, I believe.

Anna-Roza · Post by **Anna-Roza** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:15 pm

It's David on a fretless.

Some funny remarks about this common mistake are to be found in this review:
http://www.progressiveears.com/asp/revi ... 068&bhcp=1

Massed Gadgets · Post by **Massed Gadgets** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:42 pm

I stand corrected then! So do my sources, I presume!

sunny dunes · Post by **sunny dunes** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:04 pm

Massed Gadgets wrote:I stand corrected then! So do my sources, I presume!

Well, these instrument listings are notoriously inaccurate, even in print. The Another Brick in the Wall book by Cliff Jones had all kinds of inaccuracies in it, yet purported to have the actual instrument listing for each song. So unless the source seems to be something more than someone's best guess, I would take it with a grain of salt. (It was only with Nick's new book that I found out "Remember a Day" had Norman Smith on drums.)

But the rest of us saying it's Dave on "Pigs" doesn't necessarily make it so. The Floyd deserve a good breakdown of their sessions like The Beatles Recording Sessions.

Jangus · Post by **Jangus** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:28 am

It's fairly common knowledge that Dave plays bass on that.

Post by **mosespa** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:45 pm

sunny dunes wrote:
But the rest of us saying it's Dave on "Pigs" doesn't necessarily make it so. The Floyd deserve a good breakdown of their sessions like The Beatles Recording Sessions.

No...but the FACT that it's in keeping with Gilmour's melodic sense, as well as the fact that it's played on a fretless (the mere suggestion of Roger playing a fretless once made Gilmour laugh out loud,) AND the fact that Roger never played the bassline live (Snowy White did that) all suggest that it ain't Roger on the album.

I agree with you on the book idea. That Beatles book was astounding in it's revelations of what was done...even broke down some of their "secrets" at getting some of those weird sounds they got.

bpmolder · Post by **bpmolder** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:51 pm

Yeah, Gilmour on fretless bass on the album, but Snowy on bass for the concerts, and David on lead, Roger on Rhythm.....

The Gunner's Dream · Post by **The Gunner's Dream** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:43 pm

This kind of ties in with that old thread: Roger as a bass player.

I do think it is David on the album version, however. He also played fretless on Hey you because Roger couldnt play fretless (it is actually quite a bit harder) and he also played on One of these days with Roger. Besides that I dont think he has done much else on the bass.

relicsmusic · Post by **relicsmusic** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:52 am

also david plays bass on fat old sun.

Craig Marion · Post by **Craig Marion** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:38 pm

According to "The Pink Floyd Encyclopedia" pg. 241

The musicians on Pigs (Three Different Ones)

David Gilmour (guitar, bass guitar)
Nick Mason (drums)
Roger Waters (vocals)
Richard Wright (clavinet, organ, piano, synthesizer)