Waters best metaphor?

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But tonight lie still
while I plunder your sweet grave

That 2nd line is a metaphor to me :D
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JKealy wrote: Thu May 10, 2007 7:28 pm I'm not impressed by the majority - gay intellectual shit I could come up with and did when I was about 13 but discarded cos it was silly and contrived. i mean 'the wall' - every track's another brick in it - wow, you're a clever one aren't ya!!!

animals - each song a different flavur of animal!

how about 'shapes'

track 1: parallelogram
track 2: square
track 3: triangle

'parallelogram' being a melancholy love song lmao - 'we're two lines, so near, but so far, though we run side by side, we'll never ever meet, ooooh parallelogram (backing vocals: parallelogram!)'

etc
bringing this back cause it's hilarious !
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Strung out behind us the banners and flags
of our possible pasts lie in tatters and rags.


is my personal favourite
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thefinalmutt wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:28 pm Strung out behind us the banners and flags
of our possible pasts lie in tatters and rags.
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From album title song 'The Final Cut':
Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes
I can barely define the shape of this moment in time
And far from flying high in clear blue skies
I'm spiraling down to the hole in the ground where I hide

If you negotiate the minefield in the drive
And beat the dogs and cheat the cold electronic eyes
And if you make it past the shotguns in the hall
Dial the combination, open the priesthole
And if I'm in I'll tell you <<explosion>>

There's a kid who had a big hallucination
Making love to girls in magazines
He wonders if you're sleeping with your new found faith
Could anybody love him or is it just a crazy dream

And if I show you my dark side
Will you still hold me tonight?
And if I open my heart to you
And show you my weak side
What would you do?
"Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes"

How psychedelica hits the wall...
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Wolfpack wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:24 pm And if I'm in I'll tell you what's behind the Wall.
(from the FC demo). I believe they replaced that lyric with an explosion because they didn't want to insist on the link with the previous album. (or probably the fact that a few tracks on TFC were originally composed for The Wall.) I wouldn't have minded, personally :roll: ... It made much more sense that way.
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thefinalmutt wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:14 pm
Wolfpack wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:24 pm And if I'm in I'll tell you what's behind the Wall.
(from the FC demo). I believe they replaced that lyric with an explosion because they didn't want to insist on the link with the previous album. (or probably the fact that a few tracks on TFC were originally composed for The Wall.) I wouldn't have minded, personally :roll: ... It made much more sense that way.
I think they just did it for dramatic effect. He's only been insisting on the link between the two albums in every interview where it's come up ever since. He even hired the same actors to play the married couple in the short film specifically because they are the same characters as the teacher and his wife, and has said so. If the connection wasn't clear, it's only because Bob Ezrin wasn't around to identify gaps in the storyline.
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ZiggyZipgun wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:34 am it's only because Bob Ezrin wasn't around to identify gaps in the storyline.
Yeah right.
I figured he covered it up because it's a cringe worthy line. I don't want to see what's behind the wall.
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waters' best metaphor is

"Never!, " he cried, "Never shall ye get me alive
Ye rotten hound of the burnie crew!"
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US AND THEM
"Listen, son, said the man with the gun, there's room for you inside."

That one line says SO much. And I'll break it down.
"Listen" - command
"son" - hierarchy/power
"said the man with the gun" - Do we really have a choice? People are coerced to do the wrong thing.
"There's room for you inside" - Conformity, even if it's genocide.



ECHOES
"Strangers passing in the street, by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me" is certainly the most empathetic line I have ever heard.
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MortSahlFan wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:30 pm US AND THEM
"Listen, son, said the man with the gun, there's room for you inside."

That one line says SO much. And I'll break it down.
"Listen" - command
"son" - hierarchy/power
"said the man with the gun" - Do we really have a choice? People are coerced to do the wrong thing.
"There's room for you inside" - Conformity, even if it's genocide.
I think you're missing some of the context:

Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
The poster bearer cried
Listen son, said the man with the gun
There's room for you inside


For the people in power it may be a battle of words or ideas, but everyone else is running for a literal bomb shelter.
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ZiggyZipgun wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:20 am
MortSahlFan wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:30 pm US AND THEM
"Listen, son, said the man with the gun, there's room for you inside."

That one line says SO much. And I'll break it down.
"Listen" - command
"son" - hierarchy/power
"said the man with the gun" - Do we really have a choice? People are coerced to do the wrong thing.
"There's room for you inside" - Conformity, even if it's genocide.
I think you're missing some of the context:

Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
The poster bearer cried
Listen son, said the man with the gun
There's room for you inside


For the people in power it may be a battle of words or ideas, but everyone else is running for a literal bomb shelter.


No, I know the song and the lyrics quite well. The first couplet sounds like a typical anti-war protestor. I don't think a gun would entice anyone to a bomb shelter.
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MortSahlFan wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:59 am No, I know the song and the lyrics quite well. The first couplet sounds like a typical anti-war protestor. I don't think a gun would entice anyone to a bomb shelter.
Historically, especially in London, soldiers guide civilians into bomb shelters. Waters was likely pointing out the decision that each person has to make, whether to run for safety or join the fight.