I was merely pointing out that Roger has single-handedly disproven his own argument.
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Why does the thread for pink floyd's worst album have the most pages? Ugh. And here I am helping it along...
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Endless River only has 3 pagesKerry King wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:27 am Why does the thread for pink floyd's worst album have the most pages? Ugh. And here I am helping it along...
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I was more tempted to make an Ummagumma joke really but then I remembered I actually like that album (oof me )Yucateco wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 7:16 amEndless River only has 3 pagesKerry King wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:27 am Why does the thread for pink floyd's worst album have the most pages? Ugh. And here I am helping it along...
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Not sure how often I've now said this but I really like playing the AMLOR songs on the piano. They have enough substance to stand up reduced to the bare bones. I can't say the same thing about some of the stuff on TDB.Kerry King wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:12 amIt's much easier to hear the difference between AMLOR and DSOTM. AMLOR is almost completely devoid of soul. And I don't mean the music genre. The cover art is silly, too. The lyrics are annoyingly subpar. Gilmour's voice and guitar, although drowning in horrible 1980s digital frosting, would be the saving grace if he'd only had more than one great song to go with it.
Also, the remixed version of Delicate Sound of Thunder has become my go-to version of the AMLOR songs; it's the complete set (even if somewhat out of order) and the songs really hold their own against the classics in that setting.
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For me, one of the biggest problems with AMLOR is that it seems to be trying to show off every technical trick that was cutting edge at the time...which dates it. All that swampy 80's reverb (which is different from the reverb that they used to swamp everything in) is so all-pervasive that it even seems to remain after it's been turned down.
The synth sounds are still very "of the moment in '86," and for me, the biggest issue with AMLOR is something that I heard Gilmour say about recording on the MacIntosh meaning that you could use your demos as masters; and I do think that was done a lot on this album. The whole thing, every single piece would have benefitted from someone looking up and going "hang on; are we just embellishing a demo? Let's take it back down to zero and do it right."
The synth sounds are still very "of the moment in '86," and for me, the biggest issue with AMLOR is something that I heard Gilmour say about recording on the MacIntosh meaning that you could use your demos as masters; and I do think that was done a lot on this album. The whole thing, every single piece would have benefitted from someone looking up and going "hang on; are we just embellishing a demo? Let's take it back down to zero and do it right."
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^ He's often used elements from his demos on the final version, and he kept updating his home studio and portable equipment because of that. Stuff he recorded at home in '77 ended up on The Unknown Soldier and "Signs of Life", and later demos recorded on handheld devices were used on On An Island and Rattle That Lock. He has complained that it's sometimes difficult to improve upon the first take, and the tape wasn't always rolling for that.
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Exactly - that and the lack of live drum recording. I think if it had been produced along the lines of The Division Bell or like the new mix from The Later Years, it would have been recieved a lot better than it was.
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True as all of that may be, there's still a difference in approach between a demo recording and a final recording.ZiggyZipgun wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:07 pm ^ He's often used elements from his demos on the final version, and he kept updating his home studio and portable equipment because of that. Stuff he recorded at home in '77 ended up on The Unknown Soldier and "Signs of Life", and later demos recorded on handheld devices were used on On An Island and Rattle That Lock. He has complained that it's sometimes difficult to improve upon the first take, and the tape wasn't always rolling for that.
AMLOR feels like demos. Expensively over-produced demos; but demos, nevertheless.
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I’d say that the overproduced demo label fits rather for Endless River. With AMLOR they at least still bothered to turn the demos into complete songs, not just a series of ideas/intros.
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A Momentary Lapse of Reason...
Now one of the two albums I don't have.
Also, one I really truly love. I was gonna buy a repress of it at Barnes and Noble, but, it wasn't a part of the vinyl sale.
(I do have it on CD, but I only count my vinyl these days.)
Now one of the two albums I don't have.
Also, one I really truly love. I was gonna buy a repress of it at Barnes and Noble, but, it wasn't a part of the vinyl sale.
(I do have it on CD, but I only count my vinyl these days.)
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I can't overstate just how much I've come to love the 2019 remake/remix. Its stupendous and really wish something like this had been released in 1987. This a great rendition to the album, honestly.
Re: Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason
this album grows worse and worse in me with time. Can't stand post-Wall PF anymore.
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Since my last post on this topic, I have acquired both the 2019 re-release and the original pressing.
Holy damn....this OG press sounds amazing.
Gonna go an A to B on this when I have the time.
Holy damn....this OG press sounds amazing.
Gonna go an A to B on this when I have the time.