Doyle Bramhall II

[decampos]

I finally got round to buying Roger's 'In the flesh' DVD.

Does anyone here agree with me that Doyle Bramhall II needs a good smack?

[UntilWeSleep]

Does anyone here agree with me that Doyle Bramhall II needs a good smack?

Why does he need a good smack??? Is it because he destroyed perfect David Gilmour guitar solos? or is it because he plays blues guitar and you hate blues??

[decampos]

Does anyone here agree with me that Doyle Bramhall II needs a good smack?

Why does he need a good smack??? Is it because he destroyed perfect David Gilmour guitar solos? or is it because he plays blues guitar and you hate blues??

I don't hate blues. I don't think I've ever said that.

[Real Pink in the Inside]

Is it because he destroyed perfect David Gilmour guitar solos?

I'm surprised you haven't noticed that even Gilmour can't perfectly emulate his own studio solos when he is performing live.

[Stilgar]

Is it because he destroyed perfect David Gilmour guitar solos?

I'm surprised you haven't noticed that even Gilmour can't perfectly emulate his own studio solos when he is performing live.

Yep, but he still doing perfect solos, a bit different, but perfect...

[Tommy]

bands shouldnt do the same thing they do in the studio, i mean, no one wants to go to a concert and hear the CD thats in their car that very moment

[UntilWeSleep]

Is it because he destroyed perfect David Gilmour guitar solos?

I'm surprised you haven't noticed that even Gilmour can't perfectly emulate his own studio solos when he is performing live.

Of course there is going to be a differnce between live and studio. In the studio, he is able to overdub & add effects. He also extends his guitar solos live so you can have an experience on improvisation on the guitar. As Tommy said I don't think you would want to hear the same exact thing live.

[Keith Jordan]

I dont think any 2 renditions of a guitar solo are exactly the same. Improvisation is key. When Gilmour records in the studio, he said that he records several takes of the solo and chooses the best bits and puts them all together to get the best result. It would be rather boring to reproduce a studio recording live. I, myself, need some variation.

[grateful pink]

Improv Is the key. Who wants to hear the same solo at every show. I don't call myself GRATEFUL pink for nothin'. The grateful dead are essentially a live improvisational band and that is why there are so many dead shows out there that people want. Each is very different.

[Spinoza]

Indeed, Pink Floyd was in the first place an improvisationband. Not only on stage, but also in the studio. Someone came up with an idea ( mostly roger ) and on this the band would add their own input. Hence the nice balance between lyrics and music ( not only the chords). With Pink floyd, you mostly get at least 50 perc of music, if not more. That's why i like Pink Floyd. 22 min versions of Saucerful of Secrets, 15 min versions of Fat Old Sun. Love it. Keypeople in this were Dave and Rick, which really defined the "classic Floydsound" ( IMO ).

[Keith Jordan]

Someone came up with an idea ( mostly roger ) and on this the band would add their own input.

How do you know??

[Spinoza]

Well very simple Keith: just listen to all those bootlegs with 12 min version of Green is the colour, Fat old Sun and many others. Those solo's were not written in the studio at that time. Most of these songs are solely credited to Roger ( Cymbaline, Set The Controls, Green is the colour, Embryo, even later Raving and Drooling was heavily worked on musically during touring. Later in the seventies, a lot of Solo's were added by Gilmour ( eg Have a Cigar, Time ).

[NewEarthMud]

Doyle II actually done a hell of a job. If you knew anything about guitar you'd know that he is extremely talented. B.B. King asked Doyle to be the ONLY guitar player on B.B.'s new record which will be released soon. It's a record B.B. has wanted to do for a very long time... like 50 something years... a ballad record. Doyle is the only other player on there besides King.

Doyle II's Dad said it best -"From the beginning, Doyle just had the indefinable something that separates the good from the very good. I don't know what you call it, but Stevie had it, so does Doyle!"

I agree

[quicksilver]

Well very simple Keith: just listen to all those bootlegs with 12 min version of Green is the colour, Fat old Sun and many others. Those solo's were not written in the studio at that time. Most of these songs are solely credited to Roger ( Cymbaline, Set The Controls, Green is the colour, Embryo, even later Raving and Drooling was heavily worked on musically during touring. Later in the seventies, a lot of Solo's were added by Gilmour ( eg Have a Cigar, Time ).

Which is why I believe that Dave Gilmour was the best thing to ever happen to Roger Waters. He was able to take an idea and expand upon it. I love Rogers lyrics and all but Dave and Rick made them come alive.

[NewEarthMud]

Rick Wright...? How does he come into play? He did some "good" stuff early on but when I hear people act as if he had more to do with Floyd than Roger I just want to laugh! Rick early on did good things but slowly drifted away into drugs or whatever..

Just take a look at his solo records and then try and say he's a genius or that he was the "big part" of Pink Floyd.