Do you like rap?

fishes · Post by **fishes** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:09 pm

i think rap is shit for the most part although there is one and only one exception...cypress hill is fuckin awesome

floydrocks · Post by **floydrocks** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:02 pm

I like rap about as much as getting slapped in the face.

spitfire · Post by **spitfire** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:37 pm

Pugs on the Wing wrote:My feelings lie somewhere between It SUCKS and Depends on Who's rapping, but for the sake of this poll, they're closer to the SUCK option.

My feelings lie somewhere between IT SUCKS and IT REALLY SUCKS!!!!

Next question please !!

Devil man 665 · Post by **Devil man 665** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:29 pm

Rap is crap unless its funny

I love Goldie looking chain

Some boys from wales if u want a good laugh seriously check them out.

Think of The bloodhound gang crossed with the Beastie boys

The songs I've heard are

Half Man Half Machine - about a guy becomes obsessed thinking he's a robot. Whatch out for the surprise ending.

quote: 'put electric cable down the eye of his cock, plugged it in the wall and gave himself a big shock. The reason that he did it wasnt to give himself pain. Watching Terminator over again and again.

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Your mother's got a penis - The name describes it all.

quote: She walks down the street with a short dress on and sometimes exposes the tip of her tong. Often its dripping sometimes its dry no matter when i see it there's a tear in my eye.

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The maggot - A song about a band member the maggot who is.... a maggot from space.

quote: The maggot, the maggot, thats who i am, don't ever trust me allways doing a scam. I punched a woman and stole a baby in the pram.

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so yeah i think rap is good when its done by people like this

MoreOrLess · Post by **MoreOrLess** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:32 pm

I'v never been a massive fan of rap/hip hop beyond a few tracks/albums(blackstar/mos def most decently) but thats at least partly because like jazz I find it very difficult to find recommandations. The main exseption to that I spose is Massive Attack who I'd consider a hip hop band for their first couple of albums at least, I challenge anyone to listen to Blue Lines and say hip hop sucks.

backdrifter · Post by **backdrifter** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:48 pm

most mainstream hiphop is bullshit, but there are a lot of very good musicians, with very good lyrics about real-life and social problems.
Krs-One, Public Enemy, Ice-t sometimes, Dead Prez.

moreblues · Post by **moreblues** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:04 am

i always hated rap, and would have normally chosen "it sucks" but very few times i was surprised at myself having some emotions towards some very few rap songs, including eminem.
i don't know if this still makes me a nice person

BTW, by stupid mistake i chose depending on my mood when i wanted to chose, depending on who is rapping

simpledumbpilot · Post by **simpledumbpilot** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:09 am

Ive always considered myself very open minded when it comes to music and as a result I dont mind rap at all, in fact I saw the Black Eyed Peas at Glastonbury whilst getting a good spot for McCartney (waste of time that was, he sucked!) and the one thing that really knocked me back was how technically good the BEP's were, I've discussed this since with a couple of other fellow sound engineers that saw the performance on TV and everyone reached the same conclusion, and to be honest a lot more work seems to have gone into the music in their live shows than say someone like Yes who clearly play X riff for X amount of bars then hand it over to the next widdly widdly member, YAWN!!

J Ed · Post by **J Ed** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:30 am

this thread is 8 pgs so excuse me for not reading whats gone before...

like any market friendly "genre" most rap is vacuous product
though bad rap is a different story then, say, bad BlueGrass

heres a respectable list of really good Rap artists I like
and Floyd fans might like too:

Public Enemy
De La Soul (their 1st record is essential)
Tribe Called Quest
The Roots
Me'Shell N'DeoCello (tho shes more than just Rap)
Digital Underground (P-Funk proteges - check out "Sons of the P")
Arrested Development
Cypress Hill
Beastie Boys (who do a Floyd tribute in one of their videos)

the early genre-defining Rap song "The Message"
by Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five is one of the most important records ever cut
and a really really good toon too

rap before that had been mindless party music (to generalise)
and "The Message" made it Activist

Rap otherwise stayed as a genre in Party mode
until Public Enemy, and their 2nd LP
"It Takes A Nation of Millions..."
changed the face of music
with its uber-dense industrial soundmix
and the near Apocalyptic tenor of its particular message
(that being: learn your history, get involved, participate in society to change the world)

Ice T and NWA shortly followed with inspired and hilarious records
that dramatised the limited choices of ghetto life
but lacked completely the positive message of Public Enemy

unfortunately most of the well known acts that followed
played on the glamour of the Ghetto Gangster
and marketed (successfully) the most negative stereotypes
of urban black male identity
(selling records to further limit youths' identity choices)

the sickest thing is that the biggest consumers, so far as I can see,
are suburban white males, who cruise around downtown in their SUVs
with the Rap blasting, acting all antisocial and pretending they're Homies!

so the genre has some real negative cultural baggage
but the best of it is very positive in a Social Activist way
very creative in its use of sculpted sound
and often very very funny

(Pink Floyd fans should appreciate the sculpted sound aspect if nothing else)

J Ed

simpledumbpilot · Post by **simpledumbpilot** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:46 am

OMG, J Ed at last! Someone who listens with their ears and not their arse! Rap is a very complex music and Im amazed at the amount of musicians we have here that claim to be Floyd fans seem to judge it on face value as a bunch of people saying ''Yo'' and talking about ''bitches and ho's'', at last a very good ADULT response from someone who isnt naive!

J Ed wrote:Pink Floyd fans should appreciate the sculpted sound aspect if nothing else

There really is nothing else that can be added to that!

madcap69 · Post by **madcap69** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:47 am

NO!!!!!

madcap69 · Post by **madcap69** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:47 am

NO!!!!!

simpledumbpilot · Post by **simpledumbpilot** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:50 am

madcap69 wrote:NO!!!!!

Oh well I take it all back, youve won me over with youre heartfelt argument.

Tw*t

floydrocks · Post by **floydrocks** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:49 am

simpledumbpilot wrote:OMG, J Ed at last! Someone who listens with their ears and not their arse! Rap is a very complex music and Im amazed at the amount of musicians we have here that claim to be Floyd fans seem to judge it on face value as a bunch of people saying ''Yo'' and talking about ''bitches and ho's'', at last a very good ADULT response from someone who isnt naive!

J Ed wrote:Pink Floyd fans should appreciate the sculpted sound aspect if nothing else
There really is nothing else that can be added to that!

Now I agree it may be complicated, but my opinion is:

Scuplted sound sung by a bunch of nuts!

If I was to listen to some good African American music I'd listen to James Brown! He may be a nut but at least he's got some funky grooves, good bass lines and phat guitar.

And if we listen to music through our arse, at least floyd dosn't make me fart!

Devil man 665 · Post by **Devil man 665** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:26 am

simpledumbpilot wrote:
madcap69 wrote:NO!!!!!
Oh well I take it all back, youve won me over with youre heartfelt argument.

Tw*t

You're a cynical Son of a Bitch

We need more people like you

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