Waters best metaphor?

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moonwall wrote:So STCFTHOTS should be an allusion to the legend of Icaros. I'm not so sure about that :?
I found an intereting site "Allusions to Classical Chinese Poetry in Pink Floyd" at http://www.cjvlang.com/Pfloyd/index.html.
yup, it probably is ;)
and yes, they ARE aware of the Chinese poetry, or should I say just literature, - we know that "Chapter 24" was inspired by the "Tibetian book of dead"
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this is the metophore that made me realize that rog was an eff'n genius:

"Almost everyday you fall
Upon my waking eyes,
Inviting and inciting me
To rise.
And through the window in the wall
Come streaming in on sunlight wings
A million bright ambassadors of morning. "
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For long you'll live, and high you'll fly,
But only if you ride the tide,
And balanced on the biggest wave,
You race towards an early grave.
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[quote="]moomand yes, they ARE aware of the Chinese poetry, or should I say just literature, - we know that "Chapter 24" was inspired by the "Tibetian book of dead"[/quote]
not quite true. actually syd lifted the idea from hexagram 24 of the "i ching". hence the name, chapter 24. "all movement is accomplished in 6 stages, and the 7th brings return." is a direct quote from the "wilhelm/baynes" translation (the best version, imho)

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davidjay wrote:[
thanx ;)


an another good metaphor :
Life is a short warm moment
And death is a long cold rest
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My favorite is deffinetly:

You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

And I bett Dave never plays that particular Waters' song!
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I love this excerpt from Grantchester Meadows...

Hear the lark harken to the barking of the dark fox gone to ground.
See the splashing of the kingfisher flashing to the water.
And a river of green is sliding unseen beneath the trees
Laughing as it passes through the endless summer
Making for the sea.
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That whole song sends chills through me everytime I hear it, i just love it!
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It is awesome. There's a Youtube video with with Gilmour and Waters sitting on stools playing...beautiful and priceless...
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I didn't like it very much. Maybe I'm just being subjective but I liked Waters' version better. He has so calming voice that just suits the atmosfere of the song perfectly.
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What about:

"...and it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around..."

Dogs, Animals, Great Lyric
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Big man, pig man, ha ha charade you are.
You well heeled big wheel, ha ha charade you are.
And when your hand is on your heart,
You're nearly a good laugh,Almost a joker,
With your head down in the pig bin,
Saying "Keep on digging."
Pig stain on your fat chin.
What do you hope to find.
When you're down in the pig mine.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Bus stop rat bag, ha ha charade you are.
You fucked up old hag, ha ha charade you are.
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass.
You're nearly a good laugh,
Almost worth a quick grin.
You like the feel of steel,
You're hot stuff with a hatpin,
And good fun with a hand gun.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Hey you, Whitehouse,
Ha ha charade you are.
You house proud town mouse,
Ha ha charade you are
You're trying to keep our feelings off the street.
You're nearly a real treat,
All tight lips and cold feet
And do you feel abused?

You gotta stem the evil tide,
And keep it all on the inside.
Mary you're nearly a treat,
Mary you're nearly a treat
But you're really a cry.
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Syd'sSexy wrote: Hear the lark harken to the barking of the dark fox gone to ground.
See the splashing of the kingfisher flashing to the water.
And a river of green is sliding unseen beneath the trees
Laughing as it passes through the endless summer
Making for the sea.
Yes, these are great lines, but thats not a metaphor. :wink:
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Damn!t wrote:
Syd'sSexy wrote: Hear the lark harken to the barking of the dark fox gone to ground.
See the splashing of the kingfisher flashing to the water.
And a river of green is sliding unseen beneath the trees
Laughing as it passes through the endless summer
Making for the sea.
Yes, these are great lines, but thats not a metaphor. :wink:
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met·a·phor [ méttə fàwr ] (plural met·a·phors [ mèttə máwrfə sz ])


noun

Definition:

1. implicit comparison: the use to describe somebody or something of a word or phrase that is not meant literally but by means of a vivid comparison expresses something about him, her, or it, e.g. saying that somebody is a snake

2. figurative language: all language that involves figures of speech or symbolism and does not literally represent real things

3. symbol: one thing used or considered to represent another

"...river of green is sliding unseen beneath the trees
Laughing as it passes through the endless summer..."

This seems to use some symbolism to me....a river cannot "slide," nor can it "laugh." And unless you live in the South Pacific, the summer is not "endless."

Or am I a total idiot that minored in English literature and hasn't a clue? :shock: :P
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Syd'sSexy wrote:This seems to use some symbolism to me....a river cannot "slide," nor can it "laugh." And unless you live in the South Pacific, the summer is not "endless."
Rivers are also not green!

It certainly is metaphorical imagery.