the hammers

decampos · Post by **decampos** » Fri May 09, 2003 1:41 pm

David Smith wrote:On Abbey Road Maxwell's Silver Hammer is definitly my least favourite. It'a much in the style of Octopus' Garden and things, basically joke songs, which can be funny until it occurs to you that you spent like a tenner on the album.

I take your point but I think Maxwell is very different to Octopus. The latter just plain sucks whereas Maxwell sounds like a harmless tune but in actual fact, listening the the words, it's quite horrific and disturbing. I like songs with layers.

dogs_pigs_n_sheep · Post by **dogs_pigs_n_sheep** » Fri May 09, 2003 3:19 pm

decampos wrote:
David Smith wrote:On Abbey Road Maxwell's Silver Hammer is definitly my least favourite. It'a much in the style of Octopus' Garden and things, basically joke songs, which can be funny until it occurs to you that you spent like a tenner on the album.
I take your point but I think Maxwell is very different to Octopus. The latter just plain sucks whereas Maxwell sounds like a harmless tune but in actual fact, listening the the words, it's quite horrific and disturbing. I like songs with layers.

Much of Steely Dan is like that. Very light and jazzy music. Sound very happy, when in reality they are dark and twisted.

Post by **mosespa** » Fri May 09, 2003 7:01 pm

The hammers also represent a paradox...they are both constructive AND destructive...just depends on how you use them.

David Smith · Post by **David Smith** » Fri May 09, 2003 9:39 pm

mosespa wrote:The hammers also represent a paradox...they are both constructive AND destructive...just depends on how you use them.

Now THAT is an interesting philisophy you got there. Impressive.

crofloyd · Post by **crofloyd** » Sat May 10, 2003 9:57 pm

Other than the DSOTM prism, it's almost a PF logo. It's on most of the T-shirts and flags (including AHM cow, flaming back from WYWH, bricks and TDB heads).

Piper · Post by **Piper** » Sun May 11, 2003 1:11 am

Huh wow thanks for all the info! Staying on the subject of PF symbolism, I've also wondered about this Thorgerson image (I've been a fan of his works for some time now) that I've seen associated with the Floyd called the "Millennium Tree" with this tree shaped like the profile of a man's head. Anyone know what that's all about?

Feeling Very Pink · Post by **Feeling Very Pink** » Sun May 11, 2003 2:06 am

Piper wrote:Huh wow thanks for all the info! Staying on the subject of PF symbolism, I've also wondered about this Thorgerson image (I've been a fan of his works for some time now) that I've seen associated with the Floyd called the "Millennium Tree" with this tree shaped like the profile of a man's head. Anyone know what that's all about?

Well, my Mind Over Matter book/bible gives its title as "Tree Of Half Life". Apparently it was used to promote the back catalogue reissues of 1997.

Meddler · Post by **Meddler** » Sun May 11, 2003 5:03 am

I always thought of the Hammers as the working class being turned into mindless zombies and what not....

madcap69 · Post by **madcap69** » Sun May 11, 2003 5:31 am

[quote="David Smith"]On Abbey Road Maxwell's Silver Hammer is definitly my least favourite. It'a much in the style of Octopus' Garden and things, basically joke songs, which can be funny until it occurs to you that you spent like a tenner on the album.[/quote]

What a Tenner?, Is it like ten dollers in the states

Meddler · Post by **Meddler** » Sun May 11, 2003 6:32 am

Either that or
Ten`ner- n.

The cardinal number that is the sum of nine and one; the base of the decimal system .

Informal. A ten-dollar bill.
Chiefly British. A ten-pound note.

Feeling Very Pink · Post by **Feeling Very Pink** » Sun May 11, 2003 3:35 pm

Yep, "tenner" means "ten pounds".

Guess what "fiver" means?

SydsMadcapGirl · Post by **SydsMadcapGirl** » Sun May 11, 2003 3:37 pm

Feeling Very Pink wrote:Yep, "tenner" means "ten pounds". Guess what "fiver" means?

Five pounds?

Feeling Very Pink · Post by **Feeling Very Pink** » Sun May 11, 2003 3:39 pm

SydsMadcapGirl wrote:
Feeling Very Pink wrote:Yep, "tenner" means "ten pounds". Guess what "fiver" means?
Five pounds?

Almost, but not quite! It's actually slang for "My monkey is sitting in a tree".

SydsMadcapGirl · Post by **SydsMadcapGirl** » Sun May 11, 2003 3:44 pm

Oh! My...

You were just waiting and waiting for someone to answer that, huh? LOL...

Meddler · Post by **Meddler** » Sun May 11, 2003 9:36 pm

LOL.... "so charlie how are things? Not so good, remember about the
'fiver' accident? Yeah..."