Who Was Pink Floyd's Chief Songwriter?

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bong2 wrote:I have to say that I agree with rpity 100%
That this is definitely a good resource for people who are new to floyd and want to be able to tell at a glance, who wrote what.
If I may be so bold as to post another resource which was found buried somewhere in my email box, it also gives vocal credits for the various songs up to the final cut, because we know that AMLOR and TDB don't really count. But that is not up for debate. This however clearly shows that although Dave's melodic harmonies are much more recognizable and easily picked out than Roger's gargling with broken glass, it is clearly Roger once again who has sang vocals on more songs than Dave.

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bong2 wrote:I have to say that I agree with rpity 100%
That this is definitely a good resource for people who are new to floyd and want to be able to tell at a glance, who wrote what.
If I may be so bold as to post another resource which was found buried somewhere in my email box, it also gives vocal credits for the various songs up to the final cut, because we know that AMLOR and TDB don't really count. But that is not up for debate. This however clearly shows that although Dave's melodic harmonies are much more recognizable and easily picked out than Roger's gargling with broken glass, it is clearly Roger once again who has sang vocals on more songs than Dave.
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Damn!t wrote:So basically, Roger Waters is Pink Floyd and the others have just been playing some guitar/keyboards/drums parts that he orchestrated and made some coffee for the fuhrer?
I doubt anybody on here thinks that. Do you?
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Let me say this again:

Q: Which One's Pink?

A: Roger Waters.

Q: Which One's Floyd?

A: Wright, Gilmour and Mason.
So basically, Roger Waters is Pink Floyd and the others have just been playing some guitar/keyboards/drums parts
That seems to be about it, to me.

Obviously, Roger didn't "orchestrate" or "dictate" their parts to them (unless you count Wright not being able to please Roger with anything he wrote as a passive attempt at doing so,) but Roger WAS writing the majority of the songs to which they added their guitar, keyboard and drum parts, now wasn't he? :D
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Yes, he didn't call them "the muffins" for nothing, did he? [-D-]
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This however clearly shows that although Dave's melodic harmonies are much more recognizable and easily picked out than Roger's gargling with broken glass, it is clearly Roger once again who has sang vocals on more songs than Dave
Well, there nothing more deceiving than a half-truth. Yes, Roger Waters sang more songs overall than any of the other three, BUT that doesn't mean he was the band's lead singer ALL those years. By number of songs sung it has been proven that David Gilmour WAS the lead singer of Pink Floyd from 1968 until the release of The Wall. Roger Waters just took the lead for the last two albums.
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mosespa wrote:Let me say this again:

Q: Which One's Pink?

A: Roger Waters.

Q: Which One's Floyd?

A: Wright, Gilmour and Mason.
Which would make Syd "The". :)
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Or "Sound," perhaps. :lol:
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how did this thread go further than two posts?????? :shock: :shock: :shock:

Q......"who is pink floyds main songwriter?"

A....."Roger Waters"
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danielcaux wrote:
This however clearly shows that although Dave's melodic harmonies are much more recognizable and easily picked out than Roger's gargling with broken glass, it is clearly Roger once again who has sang vocals on more songs than Dave
Well, there nothing more deceiving than a half-truth. Yes, Roger Waters sang more songs overall than any of the other three, BUT that doesn't mean he was the band's lead singer ALL those years. By number of songs sung it has been proven that David Gilmour WAS the lead singer of Pink Floyd from 1968 until the release of The Wall. Roger Waters just took the lead for the last two albums.
Roger also had more vocals on Wish You Were Here and Animals than David, so I guess you could argue David Gilmour was the lead singer from SoS through DSotM with Roger Waters being the lead singer after DSotM. It only makes sense that Roger would see to it that he has the most vocals after DSotM beings as he is the one who wrote all of the lyrics.

If you look at the catalog as a whole, Roger sung the most songs by far, but one could argue nobody was really THE lead voice or THE lead singer. Much like that role was shared by Lennon and McCartney when it comes to the Beatles, it was a role shared by Waters and Gilmour when it comes to Floyd.
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Sorry, Bong, but some entries on your list are inaccurate. For example, Let There Be More Light was written by Waters, not Gilmour.

And what's that IN you used in the list (like "Ummagumma (studio side only) 1-In") ?
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Does it really matter who wrote the most or who sang the most? It sounds like a game of "Mine's bigger than yours" to me
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Real Pink in the Inside wrote:If you look at the catalog as a whole, Roger sung the most songs by far, but one could argue nobody was really THE lead voice or THE lead singer. Much like that role was shared by Lennon and McCartney when it comes to the Beatles, it was a role shared by Waters and Gilmour when it comes to Floyd.
Indeed.

I don't know about anyone else, but MY copy of Pompeii has Roger singing on STCFTHOTS and CWTAE; evidently Gilmour wasn't THE (as in sole,) lead singer at this point in the band's history.

Also...my copy of the KQED performance has Waters singing lead on those same two songs, PLUS splitting lead vocal duties with Gilmour on Grantchester Meadows...so, obviously here as well, Gilmour wasn't THE (as in sole,) lead singer.
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snifferdog wrote:Does it really matter who wrote the most or who sang the most? It sounds like a game of "Mine's bigger than yours" to me
Now that it is unarguable that the band Pink Floyd is definitively done (i.e., the band is history), it's especially important to have concise, accurate descriptions of who did what and when. It's partly up to us fans to get the historical records straight.
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Real Pink in the Inside wrote:It's partly up to us fans to get the historical records straight.

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Join us next week for "who had the biggest balls in pink floyd, 1966- 1972?"

I vote for seamus! He never got a writers credit but he definitely improvised the lead vocals on one song from the Meddle LP.