Pulse hidden track = The Big Spliff?
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Re: Pulse hidden track = The Big Spliff?
Did PF actually recorded those ambient sounds that all you heard before the 87-94 concerts? If not, who?
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They did. It's on pulse tape (cassette).
But I dont know if sounds from '87 and '94 tour are the same thing. I doubt it.
The sounds from '94 had parts of Cluster one in...
But I dont know if sounds from '87 and '94 tour are the same thing. I doubt it.
The sounds from '94 had parts of Cluster one in...
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oh, i gotcha. i remember hearing that there was enough material for another album back when tdb was first released, but nobody's ever heard anything from it so i think it may be a myth. i doubt that the soundscape was part of it. it's too ambient to be a track from a pf album.TheLazenby wrote:No, you misunderstood me - "The Big Spliff" was the working title of an ambient album that PF made alongside "The Division Bell", according to Nick Mason. I was merely speculating that the nameless soundscape was actually a half-hour chunk of "The Big Spliff" album.
the sounds they used in '87 were different. as i recall, they used the sounds of a rowing boat (from the beginning of amlor) among other things.Damn!t wrote:They did. It's on pulse tape (cassette).
But I dont know if sounds from '87 and '94 tour are the same thing. I doubt it.
The sounds from '94 had parts of Cluster one in...
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I believe the ambient material started at the beginning of the Division Bell recording sessions, and continued to accumulate throughout the recording process - jams that were eventually refined or jettisoned on the final album.TheLazenby wrote:No, you misunderstood me - "The Big Spliff" was the working title of an ambient album that PF made alongside "The Division Bell", according to Nick Mason. I was merely speculating that the nameless soundscape was actually a half-hour chunk of "The Big Spliff" album.
Speculation here, but I don't believe the "soundscape" is a chunk of the "Big Spliff".
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The hidden track on the Pulse cassette is definately the long preamble tape that was played whilst the auditorium was filling up during the Division Bell tour. This is from Pink Floyd Online:
The same sort of thing had been played before concerts for many years, certainly back to the DSOTM era and possibly before that. At Earls Court in 1994 I arrived fairly early and it seemed to go on for ages, much longer than 22 minutes. I think they also played something similar in the interval that eventually segued into the heartbeat at the beginning of DSOTM.The cassette issue had two bonus tracks: “One of These Days” and a 22 minute ambient piece that was played prior to the 1994 concerts.
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they used ambient tapes to open the show as early as the 1967 Games For May concert
from the always reliable wikipedia:
* "Matilda Mother" (Barrett)
* "Flaming" (Barrett)
* "Scarecrow" (Barrett)
* "See Emily Play" (Barrett)
* "Bike" (Barrett)
* "Arnold Layne" (Barrett)
* "Candy and a Currant Bun" (Barrett)
* "Pow R. Toc H." (Barret, Waters, Wright, Mason)
* "Interstellar Overdrive" (Barrett, Waters, Wright, Mason)
* Bubbles (tape recording)
* Ending (tape recording)
Encore:
* "Lucifer Sam" (Barrett)
I wonder if they used such tapes during their UFO days?
that Games For May concert was a deliberate attempt to create a theatrical experience for an audience seated and paying attention
before that they played to crowds who would dance and "be" and come and go as they pleased
theres an interview where Syd and Roger are talking about the need to structure their shows differently for theatre shows vs dancehall shows, I think maybe its the 1966 CBC interview?
they obviously put a lot of thought into that Games For May concert, and it was the blueprint for the complete multimedia experiences that came to be expected from them in the 1970s
from the always reliable wikipedia:
* Dawn (tape recording)The show was introduced with a series of tape recordings. Roger Waters created the opening dawn tape effects by using bird calls and various natural sounds (an effect he would use in both Cirrus Minor and Grantchester Meadows). The bubbles at the end of the show were created by Rick Wright while the ending piece was constructed by Barrett.
* "Matilda Mother" (Barrett)
* "Flaming" (Barrett)
* "Scarecrow" (Barrett)
* "See Emily Play" (Barrett)
* "Bike" (Barrett)
* "Arnold Layne" (Barrett)
* "Candy and a Currant Bun" (Barrett)
* "Pow R. Toc H." (Barret, Waters, Wright, Mason)
* "Interstellar Overdrive" (Barrett, Waters, Wright, Mason)
* Bubbles (tape recording)
* Ending (tape recording)
Encore:
* "Lucifer Sam" (Barrett)
I wonder if they used such tapes during their UFO days?
that Games For May concert was a deliberate attempt to create a theatrical experience for an audience seated and paying attention
before that they played to crowds who would dance and "be" and come and go as they pleased
theres an interview where Syd and Roger are talking about the need to structure their shows differently for theatre shows vs dancehall shows, I think maybe its the 1966 CBC interview?
they obviously put a lot of thought into that Games For May concert, and it was the blueprint for the complete multimedia experiences that came to be expected from them in the 1970s
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I have it from a very good source that the Games For May gig was recorded and that the tapes belong to Mason. My friend said at the time (Syd was still alive) that Nick was approached about releasing the recording and he said "no". Big bummer!
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That's a shame... "Games For May" always struck me as sounding very bizarre, and I was always eager to hear it. Would've been a lot better than, say, "Oh By The Way"...
Which reminds me, WE NEVER GOT THE "SAUCERFUL" 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX!
Which reminds me, WE NEVER GOT THE "SAUCERFUL" 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX!
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Nor will we.
What makes anyone think that they're going to give ALL of their albums the same treatment that PATGOD got?
PATGOD was:
1. The first album, so it gets special treatment.
2. Largely written by Syd...and the boys always felt guilty about the shoddy way they ditched him and so made sure he got money whenever they could have a say. Even though he's dead now, they're still making sure Syd's estate gets a continued income.
3. NOT an album they're trying to bury; unlike, say...ASOS and AHM.
It is my opinion that the deluxe PATGOD edition was a one-time only thing for that specific album...and not a manifesto of how they're going to be treating their catalogue from this point forward.
I think "Oh, By The Way" is the manifesto of how they're going to treat their catalogue from this point forward.
What makes anyone think that they're going to give ALL of their albums the same treatment that PATGOD got?
PATGOD was:
1. The first album, so it gets special treatment.
2. Largely written by Syd...and the boys always felt guilty about the shoddy way they ditched him and so made sure he got money whenever they could have a say. Even though he's dead now, they're still making sure Syd's estate gets a continued income.
3. NOT an album they're trying to bury; unlike, say...ASOS and AHM.
It is my opinion that the deluxe PATGOD edition was a one-time only thing for that specific album...and not a manifesto of how they're going to be treating their catalogue from this point forward.
I think "Oh, By The Way" is the manifesto of how they're going to treat their catalogue from this point forward.
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Could some of this Big Spliff stuff be the basis of the new album? I hope there is something more paletable than this...
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I wouldn't be surprised if this makes a partial appearance as an underscore to a musical piece.Keith Jordan wrote:Could some of this Big Spliff stuff be the basis of the new album? I hope there is something more paletable than this...
if this new release is going to be a tribute to Rick Wright we should expect something more than just lawn mowers and waterfalls.
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If this is part of Pink Floyd's new album, it will be the Floyd equivalent to "Metal Machine Music".
I think I heard a vacuum cleaner in there too.
I think I heard a vacuum cleaner in there too.
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And if I recall there's also a noisy neighbour with a chainsaw and a woodpecker..The Gunner's Dream wrote:If this is part of Pink Floyd's new album, it will be the Floyd equivalent to "Metal Machine Music".
I think I heard a vacuum cleaner in there too.