sonsofthedesert wrote:you have typically taken all my comments out of context to attempt to PROVE your point - whatever that is?
First off, if you can show me evidence that i typically take comments out of context then i will admit a bad here, but i would hardly say that is a typical david smithism meaning if i did it then it would be atypical. Secondly, i did not have a point as such, i just did not like having a random poster jump in to a thread with the sole intention of critising the people posting on it in an aggressive manner (i.e 'this thread is bullshit' etc). My only point was that if people particularly want to discuss if Syd had aspergers then fair enough.
sonsofthedesert wrote:I think i can smell a THESIS in the air! Or maybe a BOOK???
Having already written a thesis i can assure you it was on a much more interesting topic than the mental condition of a musician i don't particularly like.
sonsofthedesert wrote:At no point did i call "Aspergers" a personality flaw - read it again! The comment or rather OPINION was restricted to the nature of genius musical or otherwise!
I admit it was my bad here, you are correct; you did say all creative geniuses have flaws or deficits so it was a different thing, though still a generalization, which brings me too...
sonsofthedesert wrote:The thread is SPECULATIVE - you, me and others are offering OPINONS on someone we have never met based on no factual evidence, only based on erroneous media accounts over the years. It's true that there is nothing glamorous about mental illness - however, historically Syd Barrett's musical legacy has been eclipsed by amateur speculation of the nature of his personality - now you can add Aspergers to the litany of media speculators. His sister Rosemary has gone on record many times stating that he did not have a mental illness.
1) Big difference here being that i never complained about speculation and then made a speculative comment of my own.
2) In this respect i think that because Syd's myth appears to be more focal amongst fans than his actual music then i guess i have less of a problem of people discussing his personal life. What i have found from floyd fans is that people who are syd fans appear to really identify with him on a personal level in a way that waters/ gilmour fans don't. If they want to speculate on how his personality influenced his music (and in doing so speculate what the guy was like from his limited media appearances and second hand sources) then good on them. Syd fans seem more interested in Syd as the person, and probably because there is something fairly captivating about the Barret myth. Being not a Barret fan i don't really get it myself, but i don't see what harm some people on an internet forum could possibly be doing.
sonsofthedesert wrote:I DO GIVE A FUCK about who creates the music (I especially repudiate this comment of yours that I don't, since my original comment, that as I said all that's left is the music, in other words, it is really vulgar and not particularly valid to speculate and hypothesise on the mental health or diagnoses of a creative artist we have never met, no?
I'm not saying it is valid, but when a new member comes on to a thread and takes just critises the thread and the people posting then my immediate reaction is not a good one. If you wanted to question it in a reasonable manner then all the more power to you, i would never have even posted. But to come in and say 'what a load of bullshit this thread is' is all the things that you accuse me of being.
sonsofthedesert wrote:Nevertheless, this is why I mention Lennon and Mozart, two 'favourites' who academic-types enjoy 'diagnosing in hindsight') - this is why i repudiate your pretentious, overbearing UNDERGRADUATE arrogance that seems to allude that only you are capable of a valid point of view with this subject matter!!
i love that you use 'undergraduate' as a slur here. First off i am not an undergraduate, i graduated last year. If you want to say 'well your attitude doesn't reflect it' then i would say judging by initial post in this thread then you are younger than me. I do not take issue with a word you said, keep in mind that i even say at the end that there is no evidence to suggest Syd had aspergers, but i do take issue with how you said it. Secondly, you're talking about arrogance when you're post begins with an aggressive statement and finishes on 'that's all you SHOULD care about'.
sonsofthedesert wrote:"if we can draw influence upon the music from the condition" .... what the hell are you talking about??? More halfbaked speculation!!
In other words if there is evidence he has aspergers and we can see how him having aspergers may have influenced his music (you know, as it influences near enough everything in the life of a person who has it) then surely there is an intereting topic there.
sonsofthedesert wrote:Calm down and accept other opinions not in alignment with yours
This makes no sense. Considering at the end i added 'Although it is worth mentioning that i don't think he actually has it being that there has been absolutely no evidence to suggest it' then i was not saying he has aspergers. Instead, all i was saying is that i have no problem with people discussing if he did or not. That means i am more accepting of other people's opinions than you are, being that you came in and said the thread was a load of bullshit.
I think you should practice what you preach sir.