Pink Floyd - The early years 1965-1972 box set

[Keith Jordan]

note: can someone explain how to use the youtube code to embed videos? thanks!

Its a bit tempermental. You need to take the S out of HTTPS and the url needs to be simple like below. Note: I added a space in y outube so the BBC code doesn't fire.


[y outube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnTz09-nk9c[/y outube]

[MoreOrLess]

So the video content is the same thing twice in each volume (on one DVD and one Blu-ray disc). I was wondering about that... They should've done a single dual-sided DVD/Blu-ray flipper disc instead in each volume (these are around since 2009), that would've saved 7 discs and brought the price down.

Do we get the toy van as well?

In real terms it probably doesn't make a great deal of difference to the cost does it? it does have the benefit as well that you can lend the video format disks your not using to someone else and indeed have a backup if anything gets lost/damaged.

If they really wanted to pad things out they could have done so a lot more, Stockholm 67 on one disk and John Lathman on another, etc

[Wolfpack]

Little or no attention for this box set, here on Neptune?

Today, Mark R Jones wrote on Steve Hoffman Music Forums:

BBC 6 Music played Vegetable Man from the boxset in full. A small clip is available here: http://bbc.in/2fBn09A

Source: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/p ... t-15319605

Here's a direct link:
Pink Floyd - Vegetable Man (2010 mix) (excerpt)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/records/nnbgwd

Did someone record the full version?
Is it available somewhere?

[Jimi Dean Barrett]

It was played about 44 minutes in. Not sure if it was the single version or a BBC session. The really booming bass note in the middle eight has been edited lower in the mix if it's the single version!
Personally, I would of played something really rare like "In The Beechwoods", but that's why I'm me and not a DJ on 6Music.

[Jimi Dean Barrett]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/b0806zr9

Go to 45 minutes exactly!

[Wolfpack]

Today, Twittering Machine wrote on Steve Hoffman Music Forums:

Here's the full Vegetable Man

It sounds so bloody good I can hardly stand it.

51:15 in.

Nemone sits in, Shaun Keaveny - BBC Radio 6 Music »

Almost a full version, because the ending is cutt off by the DJ.
So, it's unclear if the mix ends dry or with an echo.

I'm not 100% impressed by this "2010 mix".
It just doesn't sound like a contemporary mix to me. More like someone using a computer with digital effects.
Most of the mix sounds like the Jenner mix from 1974, using lots of reverb/echo.
Big difference is the "I've been looking" vocal starting dry before getting wet.
And the ending with the ridiculing fake laughing is a bit dry, instead of drowning.

What do you think?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/b0806zr9

Go to 45 minutes exactly!

Thanks! That's another broadcast.
And it's really the full version!

I think the sound quality is much better here. Almost like a different mix.
The mix ends dry. I'd rather have the Jenner ending.

[sashwap]

love it! it's never sounded better. the busy bass during the verses i have never noticed before, but really elevates the song. god, this would have been MASSIVE (in the influential sense) had it been released back in the day. sounds so huge, and just so vital/creative. genius. happy to finally get a proper, official version.

[Wolfpack]

god, this would have been MASSIVE (in the influential sense) had it been released back in the day. sounds so huge, and just so vital/creative. genius. happy to finally get a proper, official version.

Having this digital mix released in 1967 would indeed be a sensation.

The Beatles album 'Let It Be... Naked' also contains digital editing,
giving people a wrong impression of how "pure" the recordings would have sounded in 1969/1970.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_It_Be..._Naked

[Kerry King]

digital editing ="pure" ?

Vegetable Man would have made a better A side than Scream Thy Last Scream if they had released it as their third single. Actually, Apples and Oranges was the best of the 3, VM should have been the B side of that. Paintbox should have remained unreleased.

[mastaflatch]

SHOCKING ASSERTIONS!!!

[Wolfpack]

digital editing ="pure" ?

No, I wrote the opposite.

'Let It Be... Naked' is advertised as "naked",
while in fact it uses digital editing (including some autotune).

Vegetable Man would have made a better A side than Scream Thy Last Scream if they had released it as their third single.

'Vegetable Man' wouldn't have been a hit.
In real life, I've yet to find someone who likes it. (Even though they do like other Barrett tunes.)

Until the "I've been looking"-part, 'Vegetable Man' has some intentionally awkward chord progression and a busy tirade of words.
The listener is terrorized until the Vegetable Man appears ("ah ah ah"), to save the day with some catchy pop tunes: the catchy "I've been looking" and the catchy sing-along rock outro.
Before those catchy parts, the music is one big anti-commercial f*ck the world. If you ask me.

I do like the song, but mostly when I'm in some emo world-hating punk mood.

Paintbox should have remained unreleased.

Really? Should 'Paintbox' have remained unreleased?


This night, I've heard 'Jugband Blues (2010 mix)'.
And I think it sounds... terrible.
Very empty in comparison with the 1967/1968 stereo mix.
Instead of using the extended guitar shrieking of the mono mix, it's almost entirely cut here.
The outro ("And the sea") sounds as if some cheap flangy computer effect is used.
The mix sounds to me like something the boy next door could have done on his computer. Very cheap.

'Vegetable Man (2010 mix)' also sounds like home made computer creativity to me.
As if they just used some digital effects, not caring to search authentic effects equipment.

In retrospect, I think 'Here I Go (2010 mix)' also has some computerish sound effect.
The reverb just doesn't sound authentic to me. In the 1960s, they had much better reverb than this.

[Wolfpack]

Today, Rontoon wrote on Steve Hoffman Music Forums:

Seabirds may not be the Seabirds you expected, or even the right track. Early reports indicate that Seabirds included in the box is an instrumental similar to Quicksilver, not the song with lyrics as expected.

Source: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/p ... t-15337314

'Seabirds' is not the 'Seabirds' as included in the movie 'More'??!
No "sound of seabirds in my ear", but some instrumental?
Apart from the Barrett material, 'Seabirds' was the title I was most excited about.

[Phantom Turnip]

Today, Rontoon wrote on Steve Hoffman Music Forums:

Seabirds may not be the Seabirds you expected, or even the right track. Early reports indicate that Seabirds included in the box is an instrumental similar to Quicksilver, not the song with lyrics as expected.

Source: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/p ... t-15337314

'Seabirds' is not the 'Seabirds' as included in the movie 'More'??!
No "sound of seabirds in my ear", but some instrumental?
Apart from the Barrett material, 'Seabirds' was the title I was most excited about.

Son of a bitch, I was looking forward to some legit More outtakes to improve my opinions of that soundtrack.

[Wolfpack]

Today, Rontoon wrote on Steve Hoffman Music Forums:

My original source for this (who had access to the streams for the entire set) just wrote that he listened to it all and no Seabirds as we expected. So all we can hope for is that they screwed up this rip.

Source: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/p ... t-15338552

[Jimi Dean Barrett]

Even a could of been definitive box but isn't is better than no box at all!