hallucalation wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:20 amTwo days ago [Wolfpack] insisted that this demo had nothing to do with PF. Now, when the truth emerged, he still insists that seller hides something from him
Like he was going to buy it..
I'm still unconvinced that the acetate is the 'Early Morning Henry' of the Pink Floyd sheet.
'Early Morning Henry' has been recorded multiple times. So, the acetate could be a version backed by someone else.
The seller hides the acetate's sleeve.
Only refering to it as evidence - not showing it.
According to the seller, this authentic looking sleeve is NOT the acetate's actual sleeve.
The seller hides the original sleeve, which he claims has the number "D 375" as the missing link.
The seller doesn't sell the original sleeve as part of the deal. Instead, the buyer gets a random old-looking sleeve.
As if the original sleeve has some secret FBI information...
("I have removed that sleeve as it had publishing company stickers on it and other publishing contact numbers.")
As I've had to ask multiples times to get the answer, I feel cheated.
Does the auction make clear that the acetate's actual sleeve isn't part of the sale?
The irony is, that the seller seems to get away with this, while the Butler family has to deliver proof.
So far, the facts are:
- 'Early Morning Henry' is mentioned on a 'The Pink Ployd' studio sheet ("23.10.67")
- William Billy Butler wrote a song titled 'Early Morning Henry'
- Butler and his family are willing to talk about 'Early Morning Henry'
There's no evidence that the acetate has anything to do with the studio sheet.
The acetate might contain another version, unrelated to Pink Floyd.
I'd say that if the seller really is sure it's a Butler/Pink Floyd acetate, he would gladly show all evidence.
If the seller doesn't want to share all his evidence (including a complete acetate copy) with Butler himself, I'm very suspicious.
Again, we're not talking about secret FBI files.
Even Pink Floyd has shared copies of studio sheets, shown in David Parker's 'Random Precision'.
Jumaris wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:57 amI’d like to thank Wolfpack for being the voice of reason in this conversation.
I want to thank you for really being the voice of reason. As it might have been easier (and more profitable) to just go along with the seller's hazy story of the acetate having anything to do with Pink Floyd.
Jumaris wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:57 amHowever, we are concerned if this obfuscation is being used to garner more interest, and to inflate the value. Not that we don’t think our dads song early morning Henry is valuable. To us it’s priceless. We have an entire catalogue of my dad song writing that is priceless to us.
It’s the connection with Pink Floyd on this particular track that makes this auction item increase in value.
First, the seller was sure it was David Bowie.
Now, he tries to sell it as Pink Floyd. Without showing actual evidence.
Next time, it might be The Moody Blues...
Jumaris wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:57 amEven if and when someone purchases this vinyl, they couldn’t release the song. The best chance of this version with PF to be released to the public is for us to either buy it back or make an agreement with the new owner. Or the current owner.
I just hope the Butler family can get a good agreement concerning the acetate's recording.
At least, it's sure that William Billy Butler is on the acetate.
Jumaris wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:57 amWe could release early morning Henry, that we have on reel to reel, and that way people could hear the song in its entirety. And we are considering all options.
I would like to hear a full performance of 'Early Morning Henry' by your dad. Any recording.
It would at least give a good impression what this mystery song sounds like.
Maybe Smith's daughter has the "plastic spool" tape mentioned on the Pink Floyd studio sheet?
We can only be very thankful that Butler and his family are willing to investigate the subject.
I'm not asking for an argument, I'm just asking for evidence.