New rule - respect admin/mods

[Keith Jordan]

Keith...I hope you were kidding about banning DPNS...he actually is a valuble addition to a PF board...if you weren't kidding, do you plan to punish yourself in some way for using a curse word?

He got a one week ban. Nobody gets punished for using curse words. It just gets edited automatically by the forum software!! If you want to set up a poll to see if people want me to have a one week ban, then please do! Seriously. It may do me some good!!

Perhaps I have used the wrong word using respect. What I meant was that if one of the mods or admin says stop arguing and people continue to break the rules, then that is not allowed. Referencing your point about respecting the uniform and not the officer wearing it, perhaps it should be the RULES and not the mods/admin that should be respected? That is what I meant but was unsuccessful in conveying that point to our community here. Should I change that rule?

[Real Pink in the Inside]

I thought you were joking.

DPNS loves Floyd as much as anyone in here, and he probably knows more about them than the vast majority of this community. Do you actually think he is going to come back now? Probably not. You just lost a die-hard Floydian who was a huge contributor to a PF board I used to be a member of. Good job.

This place was far cooler in July-September, 2002 than it is now. There was no reason to basically tell people they are not allowed to debate anything on here. The Western World is about FREEDOM. If you don't like freedom, move to China or Cuba or somewhere. They'll make sure you're not offended by ANYTHING on the Internet. If you don't like freedom you certainly should not be listening to Pink Floyd. If it were not for freedom they never would have been.

When you suppress opinions, no matter how unpopular or fallible they are, you are doing your part in leading the Western World towards fascism. So keep it up and maybe some day you will be thrown in jail for LISTENING to Pink Floyd.

So I guess now I'm going to be banned. That's fine. It is your board. But you certainly should allow peaceful (no name-calling) debating.

Enjoy reading Catch-22 and remember that it has been banned in many places on the planet.

[Keith Jordan]

I am happy with the forum the way it is. People can debate what they like in a nice and peaceful manner but it is a community so, if the vast majority of people want change, bring it the fuck on!

We are having a vote: rules or no rules?

See forum below

http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/for/v ... php?t=1106

[Real Pink in the Inside]

You know that I respect you, Keith. I simply disagree with all of these ridiculous rules. This place was better when you first started it up.

Name-calling is wrong, as is posting pornography and rubbish. I can't think of any other rules that need to be in place really. There's no reason to have all of these subjective rules about starting certain arguments or being "aggressive" towards members or whatnot. It's just silly stuff.

We should be allowed to post in here whatever we would be allowed to state in a private personal meeting. If people want to debate something, so be it. Debates take at least two people. Obviously someone doesn't get into a debate unless they want to. Maybe when a debate starts in a thread, Moderators should tack on at the end of the thread's title "(Debate)"

This place isn't nearly as solid content-wise as it once was (It's much cooler graphic-wise, though). I am sick and tired of thinking to myself constantly, "should I say this? Will I get in trouble for saying this? Etc."

[dogs_pigs_n_sheep]

Three cheers for Keith. He cut me some slack.

Thanks for the kind words Mos and R.PITI. You guys are very real.

[pfco]

We should be allowed to post in here whatever we would be allowed to state in a private personal meeting.

This is where people can sometimes make mistakes...thinking that they should be "allowed" to say anything they please as IF they were in a "private, personal meeting". The fact is a forum that is open to the global village of the internet, accessible to anyone who has a computer and the ability to wander in, join, make comments for the world to see, and READ what others say, automatically places that forum in the public domain and therefore it, the forum owner, and the forum posters, become susceptible to the ruling laws of the land. Freedom of speech is not absolute, and it is not absolute because there are laws protecting against varying circumstances including speech that can be considered as legally damaging.

Admins of message forums who wish to keep their forums chaos free and litigation free, must have some rules in place in order to keep order. It would be nice if Admins did not have to have rules at all...but human nature will not allow that unfortunately....so they find themselves in a balancing act of how much policy making is too little or over the top. Admins have to learn to make on-the-fly decisions many times in determining the fine line that their users tread, users do not make the job easy by any means, the burden rests solely on Admins to always try to make the right decisions. Nothing is perfect and everything can be subjective, therefore Admins know that they cannot please all of the people all of the time...but they can sure please most of them all of the time, and a good rule of thumb is: Listen to the voices of the majority.

If the majority are content, don't be concerned with the rest.

I think Keith is doing a good job, and his job is not as easy as some people think it is. It is his site, his forum, he has the right to make any policies he wants and does not have to ask for anyone's opinions about his choices...but he has done so. He was only thinking of trying to do the right thing, and it's something that should not be taken advantage of in my humble.
Just my 2 pennies

Sandy

[mosespa]

Perhaps I have used the wrong word using respect. What I meant was that if one of the mods or admin says stop arguing and people continue to break the rules, then that is not allowed. Referencing your point about respecting the uniform and not the officer wearing it, perhaps it should be the RULES and not the mods/admin that should be respected? That is what I meant but was unsuccessful in conveying that point to our community here. Should I change that rule?

Well said...and at the risk of opening a whole new can of worms, I feel I should mention that I only respect rules that have some objective basis. I feel that the majority of the rules here have some objective basis inasmuch as I understand why they are there in the first place...and I agree with them for the most part.

The ones I don't agree with are rules I wouldn't break anyway...for the most part.

I'm glad to see that DPNS has been allowed back.

[Real Pink in the Inside]

If the majority are content, don't be concerned with the rest.

So what would you do if the government decided to ban Pink Floyd? It's not like the majority would care if the government did that...

[Keith Jordan]

If the majority are content, don't be concerned with the rest.

So what would you do if the government decided to ban Pink Floyd? It's not like the majority would care if the government did that...

How would that work? The government would be overthrown if they did that!!

[pfco]

Now there's an idea...running the government like it was a message forum.

Sandy

[Real Pink in the Inside]

You can always hop on a boat and head for Cuba.

[Useful Idiot]

Now there's an idea...running the government like it was a message forum.

Sandy

Well, that would have solved some problems for us.

"Sadam, we'll ban you if you don't go along with this."

"Never!"

"Very well then."

*Sadam dissapears into thin air*

[princessDungan74D]

hmmmm..........I will try to obey the rules like a good citizen. A villiage needs laws to keep it safe and happy....as they told me before when I was little. But if I disagree with something I will be honest.

[madcap69]

Some rules good

[PinkClownie]

The word "moderator" reminds me of that saying, "Everything in moderation", kind of like "the middle way" in Buddhism. It's all so mystical, isn't it?