Isn't this Floyd without Mason?

Peter Beasley · Post by **Peter Beasley** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:15 pm

Whilst I enjoyed listening and watching the BBC Radio 2 performance, I couldn't help thinking that what I was seeing was Pink Floyd without Nick Mason (on a smaller scale of course). If I wanted to be harsh, I could suggest that this is Dave's way of getting rid of Nick, therefore no wonder he doesn't need or desire to relaunch Floyd.

From what I've heard of 'On an Island', it could easily pass as the Floyd follow up to 'The Division Bell'. Dave's first two albums sounded different to the then Floyd because they were written at a time of Roger's dominance.

To distinguish himself from Floyd, I do think Dave should be playing at least a couple of songs from 'D.G.' or 'About Face' if he still values them, even though I'd prefer to hear lesser played Floyd stuff.

The full 'Echoes' though. That alone is worth going.

J Ed · Post by **J Ed** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:33 pm

I think with the smaller band and the heftier Rick presence
that this new tour is more authentically Floydian than the 87 tour

the lack of Nick means the brandname cannot be used, as he did not even pose for a photo in this album
so far as I know Nick has a 50% share in the brand (since we can never decide if ricks now a member or not)
therefor his Grand Prix gig with Roger could just as legitimately be sold as Pink Floyd, with special guest Roger Waters

troublemaking J Ed

goldeneagle33 · Post by **goldeneagle33** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:22 pm

It does get confusing, doesn't it? I couldn't be more pleased, since i am a ticketholder for a show, it's like getting floyd at a smalller theater! I guess for the musicians it's an easier tour since there is a lot less baggage to carry around. I would have to say I miss nick's style of drumming though.

azza200 · Post by **azza200** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:34 pm

good question but Davids shows do have a floyd vibe about them lightshow etc

J Ed · Post by **J Ed** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:18 pm

goldeneagle33 wrote:... it's like getting floyd at a smalller theater!

thats the thang!
seeing Dave and Rick and special guest Phil Manzanera in Massey Hall
is going to be a way more satisfying Floyd experience
than seeing 20 tiny little humanoid blobs that may or may not be Pink Floyd hiding behind technicolour explosions at the far end of Exhibition Place Stadium

EDIT: Dave and Rick AND DICK PARRY
very good Floydvalue this time round

Tenniru · Post by **Tenniru** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:46 pm

This is difficult to say. I don't think there IS a Floyd without Mason. He stayed with the band since the original Rog/Rick/Nick lineup, stayed through with Bob Close, Syd, Roger, and Dave. A "Dry Floyd" without Nick leaves just one member from the original lineup who wasn't even there for two albums; Rick. I would not call that Floyd.

I think of this group as David Gilmour and Rick Wright (plus Pratt and everyone else.) Not the Floyd.
And not that it's a bad thing.

monkeyforce · Post by **monkeyforce** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:15 am

The Mermaid show felt like being at a DG show, rather than a Floyd show. I was wondering the same things on the way to London - that with David and Rick there, along with Guy Pratt and Jon Carin, that it was almost a fully fledged Floyd show - but it realy didn't feel like one once it got started!
Not that that's a bad thing - it was wonderfull!

goldeneagle33 · Post by **goldeneagle33** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:55 pm

azza200 wrote:good question but Davids shows do have a floyd vibe about them lightshow etc

What kind of lightshow are they using? Any kind of projector/video? With all the talk about setlist, band members I have read nothing about special effects.

radiowaves · Post by **radiowaves** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:17 pm

I think rick is just appearing as a guest artist in this folks. Okay, he is another member of pink floyd, but id dave had have got Brian Ferry as guest backing vocalist, would this be Roxy Music Without Brian Eno, Andy Mackay and Eddie Jobson??????

azza200 · Post by **azza200** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:28 pm

The lightshow is just lights no back film projector or anything just some powerfull lights which make it good

J Ed · Post by **J Ed** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:17 pm

goldeneagle33 wrote:
azza200 wrote:good question but Davids shows do have a floyd vibe about them lightshow etc
What kind of lightshow are they using? Any kind of projector/video? With all the talk about setlist, band members I have read nothing about special effects.

the video stream is still available on the BBC2 site
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/davidgilmour/
some very pretty lights used during Shine On for example

PFralst · Post by **PFralst** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:50 pm

David getting rid of Nick?

No, since Rick join David on the OAI tour he knows that it?s impossible for Nick to come along.
Because Gilmour, Wright and Mason together that would be Pink Floyd