PF influenced by the Beatles?

seamusz · Post by **seamusz** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:28 pm

I think that it is very hard to miss the Beatles influence in the Syd Barrett era PF. I like the early PF a lot, but my question is how much influence did the Beatles have on the early Floyd and do you think it left when Syd left?

quicksilver · Post by **quicksilver** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:06 pm

I honestly don't hear a Beatles influence in their music. Maybe the influence was in the production of the music and the experimentation in the studio. Most of those groups at the time were heavily influenced by American blues artists in some way. I wonder if The Beatles were influenced at all by The Pink Floyd; weren't they in the studio together during the recording of Sgt Pepper/Piper?.

Tinkerbell · Post by **Tinkerbell** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:43 pm

Yes, they were, and I read that while the Pink Floyd were amazed at what they were listening coming from the Beatles, The Beatles were very much in awe themselves, when they listened to what the Floyd was doing

Pugs on the Wing · Post by **Pugs on the Wing** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:04 pm

I hear more of a Lennon influence, especially on Roger's writing/singing, esp. on Animals and TFC.

MikeWaters · Post by **MikeWaters** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:24 pm

HA! Lennon's song writing was going downwards at an alarming pace, i dont think he couod make anything like animals or any other PF album. Havent you heard Beef Jerky?

seamusz · Post by **seamusz** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:54 pm

MikeWaters wrote:HA! Lennon's song writing was going downwards at an alarming pace, i dont think he couod make anything like animals or any other PF album. Havent you heard Beef Jerky?

Careful!!!
Lennon was an increadible song writer/lyrisist. The fact that you didn't like his later stuff doesn't change the fact that his musical ability changed an entire generation. I agree with Pugs' comment. I would have to say that in my own opinion PATGOD has a serious resembelence to the current Beatles stuff at the time. But I also think that they didn't stick around that sound very long. I think that it was mostly a Syd thing. The more that I listen to PATGOD and SOS.... and Works for that matter... the more I have to say that Floyd quickly evolved into a completely different music style and form. The only thing that is the same is the expirimental feel of the music. (With a few exeptions on the before mentioned albums.)

white rabbit · Post by **white rabbit** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:31 am

i don't the beatles really influenced the floyd, and i don't think the floyd really influenced the beatles. i don't (personally) even see where someone could even think that was influence.

Eclipse · Post by **Eclipse** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:53 am

There's only one song that I think it was influencied by the beatles. It is Arnold Layne. It's very similar to some beatles' songs and arrangements.

Useful Idiot · Post by **Useful Idiot** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:45 am

The Gnome has always reminded me of The Beatles.

JML · Post by **JML** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:34 am

Hey! What post-Beatles-band was NOT influenced by The Beatles?!

Meddler · Post by **Meddler** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 8:52 am

Besides what were mentioned above, I think Corporal Clegg is very Beatle'isc, or however you spell it. And probably more of a... oh you can do that in a studio? Type of inspiration. The expiremental aspect of it all, musically and drug wise. They both had that in common.

t_bone_frank · Post by **t_bone_frank** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 1:17 pm

I agree about Corporal Clegg, indisputably a Beatles influenced song.
And surely the parallel between the false endings....instrumental noise of 'Bike' and 'Strawberry Fields' cannot be co-incidence when they were recorded in the same studios at the same time??

t-bone

gilmourISgod · Post by **gilmourISgod** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:18 pm

i remember reading something about that Roger had said he wanted Dark Side to be more "dry" like Sgt. Pepper..... and my hero Dave said he wanted it to be more "colourful." Hmm who was right on that one?

its straight from memory, so the exact words (and even the album) might be off, but it shows that they DEFINITELY were influenced to some degree by the beatles.

white rabbit · Post by **white rabbit** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 12:08 am

i think darkside was more colourful than dry. i think the wall was dry, really i think that all of roger's later albums were "dry" sounding. but darkside was too, uhhhh surreal maybe? to be dry. it was warm sounding, whereas the wall was very cold. kinda the comparrison between wood and steel.