Don't you wory about that If I say I've mastared, then I mean thatPublicImage wrote:Until one has mastered poetical metre, form and all of the other aspects of prosody, thenmoom wrote:Do I have one, and now look at me - I mastered the thing myself, and so did Syd: his floydian and solo stuff IS pretty much poetical. It's just that EVERY poet makes mistakes in the beginning .
one is most definitely not a proper poet.
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Personally I would hardly call Syd's floyd lyrics poetical, and i would say this poem is hardly a masterpeice either. Then again i couldn't say i cared for the Syd paintings that i've seen either so i guess i think Syd is overrated
Anyway, Moom, no offence but i strongly doubt you are a proper poet who has mastered 'poetical metre, form and all of the other aspects of prosody' if you have not been educated in it first.
Perhaps present us with a poem and i may beleive you, but the lyrics you have shown us have had no signs of poetry in them (i don't mean that as in insult, rock lyrics rarely do) so i would be very surprised
And Public Image, personally i also love a good bit of free poetry as long as that is really what it is. In a number of cases i have thought the linebreaks were fairly needless and it could work as prose though A fair amount of it is a load of wank though. Especially when written by amatuers who are in the same creative writing society as me
A nice set of iambic pentameters is also very welcome though
Anyway, Moom, no offence but i strongly doubt you are a proper poet who has mastered 'poetical metre, form and all of the other aspects of prosody' if you have not been educated in it first.
Perhaps present us with a poem and i may beleive you, but the lyrics you have shown us have had no signs of poetry in them (i don't mean that as in insult, rock lyrics rarely do) so i would be very surprised
And Public Image, personally i also love a good bit of free poetry as long as that is really what it is. In a number of cases i have thought the linebreaks were fairly needless and it could work as prose though A fair amount of it is a load of wank though. Especially when written by amatuers who are in the same creative writing society as me
A nice set of iambic pentameters is also very welcome though
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I have to agree that this "poem" is a weak prose effort at best. But I also have to say that there are so many of Syd's lyrics that evoke poetic imagery, that I don't agree with your assessment. I could write pages about Syd's lyrics, but I will spare you the diatribe!
As for Syd's artwork, I am not a great fan of the abstract. But I still regret to this day (and will forever) not having bid on and won the floral still life from his Camberwell days. I do love that piece.
As for Syd's artwork, I am not a great fan of the abstract. But I still regret to this day (and will forever) not having bid on and won the floral still life from his Camberwell days. I do love that piece.
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Tomorrow, pal But as for announcement - I write two ways: whether to somebody else's tune that already has lyrics, or just myself, but then I always or almost always try to follow aforementioned rules. Besides, I am not exactly a poet, but lyricist, which is not the same.David Smith wrote:Personally I would hardly call Syd's floyd lyrics poetical, and i would say this poem is hardly a masterpeice either. Then again i couldn't say i cared for the Syd paintings that i've seen either so i guess i think Syd is overrated
Anyway, Moom, no offence but i strongly doubt you are a proper poet who has mastered 'poetical metre, form and all of the other aspects of prosody' if you have not been educated in it first.
Perhaps present us with a poem and i may beleive you, but the lyrics you have shown us have had no signs of poetry in them (i don't mean that as in insult, rock lyrics rarely do) so i would be very surprised
And Public Image, personally i also love a good bit of free poetry as long as that is really what it is. In a number of cases i have thought the linebreaks were fairly needless and it could work as prose though A fair amount of it is a load of wank though. Especially when written by amatuers who are in the same creative writing society as me
A nice set of iambic pentameters is also very welcome though
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True, i know they are very different. It is just that at the top of the page you claim to have 'mastered' poetic techniques
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Yes, I suppose it would be unfair to dismiss all free poetry. I have read some good poetry in prose, but it just seems quite lazy when it is put next to 'proper' poetry that contains metre and other technical apects to it.David Smith wrote:And Public Image, personally i also love a good bit of free poetry as long as that is really what it is. In a number of cases i have thought the linebreaks were fairly needless and it could work as prose though A fair amount of it is a load of wank though. Especially when written by amatuers who are in the same creative writing society as me
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moom wrote: Besides, I am not exactly a poet, but lyricist, which is not the same.
Bob Dylan might argue that point.
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Well, let us contact each other, let's have a fair and friendly argument
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So what poets are you in to?PublicImage wrote:Yes, I suppose it would be unfair to dismiss all free poetry. I have read some good poetry in prose, but it just seems quite lazy when it is put next to 'proper' poetry that contains metre and other technical apects to it.
I've only recently started reading poetry out of choice, but have come across a lot of excellent stuff as an English student. Last term for example we read stuff by Pope, Milton, Dryden, Marvel, Burns and Blake (who i was most impressed by).
Term before it was all Shakespeare, but back in first year we did a lot of poetic theory looking at modern Laurence, Plath and Eliot stuff so i've covered a wide spectrum without really getting in to very much of it. Also read a load of Poe's stuff.
Got quite in to Paradise Lost and the works of Blake, Burns and Dryden though so gained a proper appreciation of poetry out of English class rather than just reading it cause i had to
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I also started reading it relatively recently but I quite like Wordsworth, Keats, Shakespeare, Kipling, Wilde (did I even need to mention him? The Ballad of Reading Gaol is just sublime), Browning and Burns so far. Still a lot to discover, really!
On an interesting note, I think that poetry works more effectively when it is read out loud instead of just reading it in your head. It adds something more to it for me, at least.
On an interesting note, I think that poetry works more effectively when it is read out loud instead of just reading it in your head. It adds something more to it for me, at least.
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Absolutely. You get a far stronger feel for the sounds and the feel of it. I remember in class hearing Burns' poem The Epistle to Davey being read out and it was one of the first poems i can geuinely say i really lovedPublicImage wrote:On an interesting note, I think that poetry works more effectively when it is read out loud instead of just reading it in your head. It adds something more to it for me, at least.
But yeah, i've definitely still got loads to learn about it. Never read any of Wilde's poetry yet but i think i've got that one you mentioned in our course anthology from last year so will look it up later tonight
Got a book of poetry today actually. The Ted Hughes collection Birthday Letters written for Sylvia. Made for really moving reading so far. Found it in Fopp for 2 quid
Reminds me of when i found the complete works of Dryden in Pound Land
So anyone here read poetry more often than prose? If so who are your favourites and what did you make of Barret's (to kind of keep this more on topic, not that i think it is neceassrily off right now)
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Hi
Check this out for a few of the facts !!!!
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_b ... 666420.ece
Check this out for a few of the facts !!!!
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_b ... 666420.ece
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Thanks for posting that Spidex! I had read it a couple of days ago and had meant to post it and forgot!
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what amount was gotten for the poem: http://www.kslx.com/Article.asp?id=433422&spid=8005