No one's debating the authorship of "The Gold It's In The..."Kerry King wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:05 amIf all of the lyrics are his he's undoubtedly embarrassed by them now.
I honestly don't mind most of Two Suns in the Sunset. To be honest the only bit that makes me cringe is the "oh no" after "Like the moment when the brakes lock / And you slide towards the big truck" It's kind of laughable.ZiggyZipgun wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:03 am I'm embarrassed for him when it comes to "Two Suns in the Sunset", which is one reason why it's not an enjoyable listen for me.
All of the sound effects and spoken bits on that song are so on-the-nose that it reminds me of the video for "Down Under".theaussiefloydian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:24 am I honestly don't mind most of Two Suns in the Sunset. To be honest the only bit that makes me cringe is the "oh no" after "Like the moment when the brakes lock / And you slide towards the big truck" It's kind of laughable.
No less than Dave with his lyric on 'The Narrow Way (part III)':Kerry King wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:05 am If all of the lyrics are his he's undoubtedly embarrassed by them now.
Gilmour was even embarrassed by it at the time, and had his vocals intentionally mixed as low as they'd allow on the original release. Still, I'll take "The Narrow Way" over "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk" any day of the week - one I listen to quite often, and the other not at all. Even with zero confidence and minimal enthusiasm, the first song he ever wrote was better than a dozen that Roger had put out by then. If Roger's own embarrassment of Radio KAOS shouldn't influence our opinion of it, then I won't let Dave's disappointment over "The Narrow Way" affect mine. I like it.space triangle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:56 am No less than Dave with his lyric on 'The Narrow Way (part III)'
This was also true of The Wall, but then there are those sales figures you like to quote. Plus a tour and a feature film in between?space triangle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:00 am Although 'The Final Cut' was by no means a materpiece, a timing and circumstances were not favorable for the album.
He might. Let us know his source if he lets you know. Not that it's important. I am not debating here. The Gold's In The... also has mediocre lyrics and I don't really care who wrote them. I like the guitar.ZiggyZipgun wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:59 amI emailed Andy, so we'll just have to wait and see. He was the editor of The Amazing Pudding for a decade, and this wasn't the first Pink Floyd book he'd written, so he might know his shit.Kerry King wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:05 am If all we have is Mabbett I wouldn't say it's definitive.
I'm not overly convinced the lyrics of Obscured by Clouds were something Pink Floyd spent a lot of time on. Given that the album is chiefly a soundtrack to a film I suspect a lot more concern was placed on what it sounded like more than anything else.Kerry King wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:32 pm The Gold's In The... also has mediocre lyrics and I don't really care who wrote them. I like the guitar.
Agreed. And because it was a film the lyrics needed to reflect the story. That can be a tough angle to write from. Not the same as just expressing oneself. I think Waters' first great lyrics are Us And Them and Brain Damaged. BD is also a rather dull tune (melodically, rhythmically). The "climax" of DSOTM has always been anticlimactic for me. Great lyric though. Most of my favorite pf lyrics come between 1975-1983. Two Suns is kind of ridiculous but there's a few good lines and I like his vocal melody. It's derivative in a way I can enjoy. TFC has some of my favorite Waters lyrics. The title track, Gunner's Dream, Paranoid Eyes, Possible Pasts...theaussiefloydian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:36 pmI'm not overly convinced the lyrics of Obscured by Clouds were something Pink Floyd spent a lot of time on. Given that the album is chiefly a soundtrack to a film I suspect a lot more concern was placed on what it sounded like more than anything else.Kerry King wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:32 pm The Gold's In The... also has mediocre lyrics and I don't really care who wrote them. I like the guitar.
Understandable, though I think "Eclipse" well makes up for anything Brain Damage might be lacking musically.Kerry King wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:10 am The "climax" of DSOTM has always been anticlimactic for me.
Yeah, "The Final Cut" is one of my favourites on that album. I think lyrically it might be the heaviest thing written for a Pink Floyd album, and in a way I admire that.
I know nobody cares but I meant to say Waters lyrics not PF lyrics. Barrett wrote my favorite pf lyrics: Jugband Blues. Also, some of those lyrics on Syd's solo albums are as good or better than Waters at his best.
Yeah those are some of Floyd's greatest lyrics. Great, but pretty haunting given the context they were were written in.